Amen to Thomas Lie-Nielsen and Co.

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX


>My experience was roughly the same as yours, massive failure with Stanleys and even some new wooden until I bought the LN LA Jack. This jack worked great, and the bonus is that it did so many jobs acceptably, so I could use it for everything from jointing through smoothing while learning other planes. I now (4 or 5 years later) make and use my own Japanese dai as well as purchased with great success. Over the last couple or three years I've moved to these planes supplemented with many metal and wooden speciality and block planes for special tasks, many from LN. Anyhow, even though I seldom using the LA Jack these days, it holds a sentimental place in my heart.

Pam

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Jim Shaver Oakville, Ont.


>Hi Pam,

You and me both, my LN LA jack has long been one of my most prized Go-To-Tools to use in such a wide range of applications.

Take care,

Jim

Re: Amen to Thomas Lie-Nielsen and Co.

Deirdre Saoirse Moen


>My first LN plane was also like a light bulb going off, so much so that I had a great time.

I recently bought a LN 5-1/2 from Cecil on this board, my first LN bench plane (but not the first LN plane). It arrived, but I hadn't had a chance to use it. When I needed to go to class this week, I packed it. Hadn't sharpened it or anything, just got packed it.

Partial repost from SMC (with some annotations) from after my class.

The legs of my new shaving horse are made from teak, because I found some teak shorts at a good price. So I was planing the teak tonight, and yeah, it's hard, but it planes well (it even bandsaws well, came off nice and shimmery and pretty darn smooth, actually).

So, with the Record #4 smoother I have, I discovered that teak loved to push the blade back behind the chipbreaker (never had that happen before, happened three times tonight). Then I went over a small knot on side #4 and I felt the blade nick (freshly sharpened Hock A2 blade, no less). Looked at it, sure enough, nick. After that, the Record just would NOT behave. It was just balking. Time to get out the artillery.

So I got out the LN 5-1/2 and it behaved immediately.

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Donald Pierson


>Todd I agree...I have got into woodworking in the last 18 months. I had nothing but frustration with a cheap...and I mean really cheap...cast iron replica of a stanley. Then I bought a LN 102 block plane and found out that hand planes can really work well. Since then I have spent time and effort reading and tuning hand planes. It is an art as well a skill and takes practise. I am sure the pros chuckle watching a beginner struggle with tuning a handplane. I bought and built Hocks wooden handplane kit and bought a #6 Stanley. I really like the heft of the #6 but each plane has its own areas of use. I am thinking of getting a #4 next. Tuning is a big part of making a plane sing but it starts with a sharp blade. I find that my set of water stones give me not only a sharp handplane blade but chisels and knives. Dull tools are just as discouraging as an untuned handplane...Don in Vancouver,WA,USA

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David Charlesworth


>You have discovered one of the great truths of plane use.

The sole must be flat enough to take fine shavings.

Patrick leach and many manufacturers have a lot to answer for!

Even the new L-N chipbreakers improve with a little honing at around 40 degrees if you want to set an extra fine mouth.

David Charlesworth

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John Clifford in Chicago


>David, would you recommend honeing the chip breaker at 40 degrees on a plane with a 50 degree pitch frog or would a different angle be more appropriate for this set up? Thanks for any input, John.

You actually used it yesterday?

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA


>How Todd? It was 111 degrees at my house yesterday expecting 107 today. I couldn't think picking up a tool of ant kind 'ceptin a bottle opener.

Did you get iron or bronze?

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David Charlesworth


>John,

40 degrees is a conservative angle for a standard pitched plane. You can go as steep as 45 degrees. A crossection drawing of the throat, blade and chipbreaker helps here.

On a 50 degree frog you must not exceed 40 degrees on the fron edge of the chipbreaker.

What we don't want is a chipbreaker with a blunt or square edge, which would be likely to cause choking if the mouth is set very fine.

I think San Jose was a little cooler

Bill Houghton, HOT Summer in Sebastopol, CA


>and perhaps he adopted the practices of another Todd, and took a shower first, thus providing evaporative cooling.

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Deirdre Saoirse Moen


>107 yesterday here in Menlo Park. Not sure how hot it got earlier, but it's 95 now at 7 p.m. :(

Why I'd never...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA


>Do handtool erotica like that!

Taking a plane into the shower on a hot day that's discusting!1

I have been known to use waterstones to remove that crusted on body...Aaaaa ya realy don't....

Deirdre..

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA


>I was 107 today, down to the 80's now, SWEET!

Got a interview mt. view mayana. No AC in the truck.

Scott, pondering using witch craft to bring fog.

Someboby bring me a live chicken...

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Deirdre Saoirse Moen


>Well, the cat brought in a dead bird today. Not *exactly* a live chicken, but it'll have to do in a pinch.

Good luck with the interview!

ObGaloot: I now have more plane blades sharp than at any previous date. Today was a good day to stay inside with the gentle gurgling of the Tormek.

Hey Scott

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.


>Do you need an eye of a newt that was caught under a full moon on an October night? If so contact Todd I think he has several. Fairly common stuff in Maryland you know. ;~)

WWing while in the shower eh? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm consider the possibilities.

T.O.

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Todd from San Jose


>I got bronze.

We were one of the 30,000 without power, so no AC either. It reached 100 inside the house.

My garage is by far the coolest place in the house, so it was a perfect opportunity to go down and woodwork.

-Todd, beat-red, sweaty but got all 8 drawers fitted in my spice cabinet

Sweet!

Derek


>Looks like you got it down!

Plus, that is a really nice view from the garage too!

What a nightmare, New plane and...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA


>You got to spend a day in hell! Hey, After today it's going to be a week of it.

I've lusted after a bronze LN4 for years. I went for iron edition of their 4.5 for my smoother. Ah, to each his own. I'm glad to hear you like it, LN's are sweet planes.

Now all ya have to do is not sweat on it too much...

Scott, heading to SJ mayna for yet another interview...At least it's in the morning.

Naaa, I'll go into the Redwoods...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA


>And gather up some Banana Slugs! Powerfull mojo homeboy!

;^)

Ever step on one of them?

Derek


>It's like wiggling, solidified snot - and a big one can be 8" long! I've had em wiggle into the kichen before!

As my girls used to say "EEEEEEEEW!" - actually, I lied. They never said that. They aren't squeemish.

Mojo? Each to his/her/it's own... Enjoy!

Derek where are U?

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA


>The killer Banana slugs are the man! or woman, they adapt to their sex...

I like the way they move around me. I wish I could have sex like them in a weird way...Enough! I know your watching big bro...