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Quickie project

Jeremy Osner


>Sylvia and I made her a little writing desk yesterday, the kind that she can use sitting on her bed or on the floor, with her legs under the desk. It was fun to lay out and build, and 3 hours from coming up with the design to a finished, usable desk. (3 hours includes a half hour waiting for a repair to dry, I split one of the pieces accidentally -- a clean split and easy to reglue.

I eliminated most of the need for joinery by using "fake rails" -- I cut the legs and "rail" on each side out of one piece of wood. So the rails do not provide a lot of structural integrity; but I think they should be adequate for any abuse this desk will see. I was originally thinking to just use a solid piece of wood for each side but then I realized it might make the desk too heavy for Sylvia to carry around -- so I cut a large piece out to make the side be just legs and a rail. Have any of you used this trick? It seemed like a nice innovation -- the desk, which is made of 3/4" maple and 16" X 12" X 10 1/2", is easy for Sylvia to pick up and move across the room.

This was Sylvia's first experience using spoke shaves, which she enjoyed, and first experience with dowel joinery, which she didn't pay much attention to. She is learning slowly how to saw and how to drive a nail.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(


>Hey Jeremy that's really cool that LOYL is showing an interest in woodworking. I bet t would really be nice to have a spouse that shared the same interest as the other. Very COOL!

Remember, she is the Apprentice, and part of the training is to include blade sharpening, boring out deep mortices, and floor sweeping. ;~)

Can you post a pic of the desk?

Todd O.

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Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA


>Sylvia is definitely one of the loves of Jeremy's life, but she's a bit young to be his spouse.

Jeremy: cool on several levels! It's really neat when the kiddo starts to learn to use tools and find it exciting.

One thought, one suggestion:

Thought: I've seen similar designs, but rather than a U shape, which is what I think you're describing, it was more of a square O shape, usually with the long grain running the long way on the piece. This provides more strength. But when I look back at some of what I built for the boys that lasted just fine, I realize that there's more than one way to do things that works (one little wagon, about 6"x10", that our older son built for his little brother when L.B. was about a year used 6d nails for axles, and ran just fine, although they're way too thin to work for that purpose).

Suggestion: if there's no built-in cleat effect from other structural members, you might consider adding a cleat just where the legs take off, to avoid splitting the wood if the leg catches on something as the desk is picked up. You might need to slot the holes to permit wood expansion.

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Jeremy Osner


>Thanks Bill -- now that I think of it I've seen the square sides you describe, too. My grandparents had a pair of end tables that were built that way. I'm not sure what you mean by a cleat -- could you expand on that?

This evening Sylvia and I rubbed out the shellac with mineral oil, that was fun. Still needs another coat or two. I'll post a picture of it when they get developed.

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Jeremy Osner


>Thanks Todd -- as Bill says, Sylvia is my youngster, not my wife. She did stick with it long enough to help me clean up the shop, holding the dust pan and stuff.

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Sounds like a good project...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA


>To get your daughter involved with. Can't blame her on dowles being boring, 'cause they are! Next time have her rivit the dowles through a dowel plate. Might be more fun for a little one...

I'd love to see a pic or two of your "cheating" ;^)

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Even Better!

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.


>Getting youngsters involved in woodworking and handtooling to boot, especially girls as it is something that they wouldn't "normally" be exposed too.

Sorry for the mixup on my part Jeremy.

T.O.

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Wild speculation here

Bill Houghton, finally Spring!! in Sebastopol, CA


>I assumed in my earlier post that you had oriented the grain vertically on the sides. If that's not the case, this post is totally irrelevant - stop reading now.

You see pieces with solid sides, vertically oriented grain, and little arches cut out at the bottom to make two "feet." These work because the resulting "legs" are very short relative to the length of intact grain. As the legs get longer, the leverage effect increases, and, for a given height, the intact grain gets shorter. At some point, it gets weak.

One way to reinforce it would be a cleat just above the legs, tying the two legs together across the solid grain. See wondrous mechanical drawing below.


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Jeremy Osner


>Oh, I see. Yes, you're right about the grain orientation. So you're basically suggesting to run a piece horizontally across the top of the side? I think that would be overkill for this project but I'll keep it in mind in case I do something similar in the future.

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