Scraping video and a book or two on scraping *LINK*

Re: Scraping video and a book or two on scraping

paul womack


>Apparently the superb little book on vise work, an excerpt from "The Complete Practical Machinist" by Joshua Rose is now out of print.

Well, the reprint excerpt may be out of print, but Michegan State University Library has the Entire original book (not just an excerpt) here in PDF form.

http://digital.lib.msu.edu/collections/index.cfm?TitleID=274

You'll most likely want a fast connnection for the download.

BugBear

Re: Scraping video and a book or two on scraping

paul womack


>During last night's handtools chat we got onto scraping soles and beds

a) is the chat archived?

b) I tried scraping and it's too slow for correcting "typical" faults in flea market planes. Accurate, but slow.

I've had better results with more brutal metal removal techniques, including files and coarse AlZi.

(come on, you're expecting this...)

detailed info on plane sole flattening

BugBear

Re: Scraping video and a book or two on scraping

William Duffield, on the Cohansey


>Sorry BugBear, but I was having trouble with my chat connection at the onset of the chat, and didn't get the log feature turned on. I can never tell at the beginning of the chat whether any or all of it will be "wheat" worth saving, or whether it will be mostly or all "chaff." Then there is the effort involved in editing out all the noise, not to mention anything that any of the participants may not want institutionalized.

For those who don't see it....

Paul Kierstead


>The chapters on vice work are in Vol 2,

http://digital.lib.msu.edu/collections/index.cfm?TitleID=367

Re: no problem.

paul womack

Caveat Emptor

woodburnbob


>Michael Morgan, the fellow whose site you link to, has a pretty controversial history on the machinist's forums. The problem stems from non-delivery and non-response, things promised but abandoned, businesses lost, so on and so forth, the whole nine yards. I don't know what the current status is. It's a very sad situation, since it would seem he knows what he's talking about but forces outside his control interfer with him becoming a dependable guru and vendor.

Do correct me if I'm wrong. I'd just hate to see a bunch of folks here send money for books, videos and scrapers based on the link you reference and then you wind up feeling responsible for the outcome.

At one time it was promised that he'd put the stuff for sale in someone else's hands who'd be responsible for collecting money and dispensing what's for sale. That might be the situation now. I don't know. I wanted to buy some things from him 3 and 4 years ago but lost the courage.

I'd love to learn that you or someone else knows his situation intimately and can vouch for everything having been worked out and stabilized. I'd then get in line myself.

Re: sorry - bookmarked volume 1!!

paul womack

Found it..... *LINK*

woodburnbob


>Didn't think I'd find anything recent, but here's a 2 month old thread on this topic. Read for yourself.


What I'm referring to

Holy Moly! Thanks for the warning!

David Barnett - SW Florida


>I had planned to rent the video if Technical Video Rentals ever offered it again. I've done enough scraping (I've scraped everything that needed it and a few things that surely didn't) not to need any instruction, but I do enjoy looking for new tips, tricks, and so on.

Re: Scraping video and a book or two on scraping

Thom D


>Yahoo has a scraping group, as may have come up last night. I'm a member, but not to worry I have never posted.

I think if scraping is slower for you than filing, then there may be some options you should consider. There is the kind of scraping that gets you a fine surface that can't be readily exceeded by any other means, like the ways on a surface grinder, this is slow. But there are methods that are quite agressive, like the Sen that has been talked about here before. Not sure what you were after yesterday.

Re: What we were after...

William Duffield, on the Cohansey


>I recently acquired an old machinist's 9"x12" cast iron surface plate at auction, for a gloatable price. I also have an inexpensive granite surface plate. Having no training or experience as a machinist, I was thinking I could use the CI plate, charged with diamond, for sharpening, but figured I would probably need to make sure it was flat first, and if not, make it flat. Someone else commented on a problem with a plane (whose brand shall remain concealed) whose symptoms indicated a possibly concave sole. Both problems could perhaps be resolved by bluing and scraping, if we knew how to do it, and would prove to be interesting and educational exercises. Of course, invoking Customer Satisfaction Guarantee would be a lot quicker in one case, it would be less interesting. In the other case, the "try it and see if it works" strategy might also save some time, but again provide no enlightenment.

If I work at it I can make it slow.

David Barnett - SW Florida


>It actually goes along fairly fast, esp. when starting with the narrow bent spoon-shaped or triangular scrapers, which can be truly aggressive, as you say. Put on some music, chant a mantra or something and you're there before you know it. But what takes the extra time is getting that pretty silky basketweave (or serpentine, or whatever your style is) where all the little blue dots almost touch one another real evenly (it FEELS silky, too). Now THAT'S just plain fun. At least you didn't notice the cabin fever so much during those long dark New England winters.

My first scrapefest was a Record LA block plane. What a difference! I was hooked. Next was a small line-belt iron lathe bed. Then just about anything cast iron was thrown under the scraping juggernaut. Didn't need to scrape everything, but couldn't stop myself. Whatever gene got triggered, at least it was somewhat productive. Beware, though: those with obsessions and compulsions who'll bother the buttons off a shirt or twiddle their hair out by the roots might want to send their planes to be surface ground.