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Saw sharpening - alternative to sight black?

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Saw sharpening - alternative to sight black?

Paul Erickson

>Tom Law, in his saw sharpening video uses sight black to dull the glare of the teeth while sharpening. Anyone know an alternative? Given the ______ up nature of the canadian gun laws finding this product up here is a bit of a challenge. I know about using a black felt marker, but the arisol spray makes things quicker. I guess in principle I am looking for a very fast drying dull black paint, but would appreciate hearing any other suggestions.

cheers, Paul

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L. Hanson

>There are plenty of alternatives, including chalk, soot from a flame, markers - just about anything you can come up with that isn't permanent. Sometimes just making a couple of cuts with the saw leaves enough dust on the teeth so you can see where you've sharpened and where you haven't...

Leif

www.norsewoodsmith.com

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Dave (Arlington, VA)

>Hi Paul -

Leif is right. Lots of things work. I've used soot from a candle myself. Tom Law appears to be currently using a black shoe polish applicator (with the foam-like applicator top). The shoe polish does remain behind but does wear off.

Regards -

Dave

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Thom D

>I don't think you would have much trouble finding sight black due to our gun laws, though apparently half the products ahve been tossed under knew environmental controls of carbide lamp products. On the other hand, in the pre-can world people used to smoke their sights with a kerosene lamp, you know "lamp black". You could apply prussian blue oil colour. Or possibly a spray of dye chem blue lay-out spray would work. I think Ackland grainger has that.

One thing mentioned as a lay-out guide in a FWW book is the appropriate pitch hacksaw blade, just clamp it in there.

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#5

I'd use a big fat Sharpie...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>Prevents rust too!...;^)

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#6

Designer's gouache from any art store...

David Barnett - SW Florida

>...can be thinned with water, rolled*, daubed, sprayed or brushed to leave a fine opaque matte surface. Easily washed off, if you prefer you can 'fix' it with ordinary hairspray or art fixitives. Acrylics dry quickly but gum up files. You can also use sumi ink, but the amount of binder varies in these. Don't bother with the more expensive 'artist' gouache, btw, as they're formulated for permanence and historical correctness. I often use gouache as a ground for engraving layout. I prefer the velvety matte surface to the shinier and rather too transparent Dykem unless I'm marking by scratching or cutting through the dye film. China white, sold in little cakes, works okay, I suppose, but can be a little crumbly and chippy. Besides, I prefer a grey, buff, or grey-green surface. Easier on the eyes, IMO.

Of course, Dykem or Starrett layout blue works fine. The Starrett spray is convenient but pricey. Make your own from dye, alcohol and shellac. Dykem makes a wide range of metal marking dye pens, too, but Sharpies work well enough. Most layout pens are alcohol soluble.

*I'd think a little bench-mounted reservior with a 1/2" wide roller in the top would work great for anyone who sharpens lots of saws.

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Mark Kuzee

>I have used the black foam type shoe polish appplicator method as well. It works fine for me and is easy to remove.

Mark

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Re: I'd use a big fat Sharpie...

Geppetto

>I like the shaprie idea but wonder if it may reflect too much light

Geppetto

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#9

I've used them plane blades...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>Skew blades for the most part. I find it easy to mark the blade using the planes mouth as a guide. A fine tipped one works well on plane irons and cleans off metal easly with some thinner.

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