Back saw with uneven set

Re: Back saw with uneven set

Dan Moening

>As I recall it steers to the side that has too much set.

Stone the side the saw veers to in order to straighten the cut; in your case the "right" side is the right.

~Dan.

rip or x-cut?

Adam Cherubini

>Denis,

If the saw is x-cut, I think stoning could shorten the overly set side. Stoning a rip saw is probably not as problematic, but in mind mind, it seems like the wrong solution. I want my saws to perform at their very best. I can only think anything more than the lightest stoning is robbing the saw's performance.

The real problem could be one of two things and either can be addressed directly:

1) It could be that the teeth were originally cut from one side only. If you close your eyes and just run your fingers down the blade, pinching the teeth between them, you may be able to feel the difference between set and a burr. If it is a burr (and this is pretty common i.m.e.) just run a file thru every tooth on that side.

2) If you think it really is set, you can try tapping it out (and risk breaking teeth) or just set the other side more. I don't think set is the demon some say it us. Its a few thousandths of an inch. Subsequent sharpenings will reduce it.

I think stoning should be reserved only for witches and harlots. Saws deserve better treatment.

Adam

Re: rip or x-cut?

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Good points, Adam; but I think stoning should be reserved for those holier than thou judges who sentence "witches and harlots" to stoning.[edited]

Pam

Re: Back saw with uneven set

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>Pam, I doubt if Adam was serious...maybe a smiley would have helped. Wait...are you joking too? I'm confusedJR

Should be a reply to Pams post below

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

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Re: Back saw with uneven set

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Yes, I'd assumed Adam was joking, but there are so many more metaphors available that it surprised me. And then there's today climate, full of fear and loathing, probably much like Salem (and many other places) in the 16th and 17th centuries when they were succumbing to grain molds and viruses. And then add the still current practice of stoning adultering women (once again, the men don't seem to pay the price). All of which makes this very unjokable.

Pam

OT- stoning

Adam Cherubini

>I guess stoning a rape victim is so far from my reality that its kinda funny. I mean, its unapproachable. It may not be so for everyone here. Case in point- Yesterday, I prepped some stock for my kitchen remodel then took a break to wash my car. My older 2 children had gone to the parade and to visit their grandfather's grave in the local national cemetary. So this guy (3-1/2) helped me wash my car. He said "you be me, and I'll be you". So he was Dad and he used the hose and I was "Chrissy my love".

So stoning is just like life on Mars to me. I can laugh about it because its not real. Its not my reality.

Adam

P.S. Mother Teresa said "I don't read the news because I want to know the truth". Our truth is our reality.

OT - cultural sensitivities

Bill Houghton, finally Spring? in Sebastopol, CA

>This thread could easily wander into a territory that's outside this forum's rules, but let me try to state it in a way that fits within the community rules: I think we aim for civility here, and as times change, acceptable phrases change. There are certain words pertaining to ethnic ancestry that are unacceptable in modern American speech, but were once considered, if not polite, certainly acceptable. I think Pam raises a good point; even if it's outside your experience, Adam, as it's outside mine, I think it's worth being aware that it's sure not outside everyone's.

No man is an island...

Wiley Horne

>So never send to know for whom the bell tolls....

Thanks, Wiley and Bill.

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

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Re: rip or x-cut?

Todd Hughes

>Witches and harlets at least in the west were almost never killed by stoning. The tradtional method for witches was buring at the stake though many were also killed by "breaking on the Wheel" which were where thier limbs would be broken on a large wagon wheel and then threaded in between the spoke and have the wheel put on a tall pole. In Salem Mass. the witches were all hung though one old man that wouldn't coroporate was pressed to death under large stone. Probably a case of his dieing by accident while trying to be persuaded to rethink his position.

Was several crimes that could lead you to be sawn in half with sodomy being the most common. Most time they would hang the person upside down so that they would live longer and cut down the middle. I just bought a pretty rare 200 year old book on torture with lots of neat cuts [no pun intended!] show different methods of torture and execution and here is one showing a person being sawn in half un typicaly across the center of the body. I would think in this case from the position of the cutting a X-Cut saw was probably used.....Todd

X-cut

Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.

>First, my memory failed me, the saw pulled on the left... Man, if my memory is already getting bad, what will it be when I reach three times my current age? Geez, I'll make new friends every day...

I did a quick test. The set (I don't think it was a burr) was much more pronounced on the left side. Having nothing to lose, I used a 1000X waterstone on that side, checking my progress with test cuts. I now have it cutting straight, however I don't think this "fix" is optimal...

What I think I'll do is to bring the saw to a pro sharpening service. They're not expensive, and with my limited shop time I prefer working wood than fixing tools (even if it's fun...).

Thnx,

DC

Re: X-cut

paul womack

>They're [pro saw sharpening] not expensive

They're not always good either ;-)

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