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Geo. Parr ?

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Picked up a sweet little drawknife at my Wednesday morn flea for $7.50, actually got two at once for $15, so that $7.50 apiece in my mind. Anyhow, on this 'knife is the name Geo. Parr and below that is Cast Steel. Who is Geo. Parr? I've never heard this name before. Rarety? From handle center to handle center it is 13.5" and the cutting edge is right about 7 13/16. Handles are tight and are capped and peened. It's rusty but not bad. Plenty of steel left I d believe. I've been watching these smaller knifes go on e-bay for some fairly decent money, and now, finally, I've got one, and for cheap! :~)

Todd O.

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Jim Crammond in Monroe, Mi.

>Todd,

Geo. Parr was an dge tool maker in upstate New York, I want to say Buffalo, but it may have been Rochester.

I see a few of their chisels in this area, not common but several every year. They seem like well made tools, they take and hold an edge well.

Good find.

Jim

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Don McConnell

>Jim,

Your first instinct was correct. The _Directory of American Toolmakers_ (aka DAT) lists George Parr in Buffalo with working dates of -1861-1871-. Based on some internet sleuthing, I think we can safely extend those years, somewhat. In 1856, the _Scientific American_ featured George Parr's firm, complimenting him on his well appointed factory, employing about 50 hands, which produced ... "shoemakers' and saddlers' awls, tinsmiths' punches, cold chisels, oyster knives, screw-drivers, Yankee screw-drivers with hollow handles and a set of tools within, scratch awls, pinking irons, etc." Also, in 1859, he was assigned a patent, for a tool used in boot making, issued to D. G. Chase (U.S.P.N. 25,995).

By 1863 he was offering a spoke shave based on M. Colton's patent (U.S.P.N 32,617, issued June 25, 1861), as well as chests of tools marketed to homeowners and farmers. During the 1860's Parr was issued a patent for an improved camp chest (U.S.P.N. 32,643, issued June 25, 1861), one for improvement in the manufacture of screw-drivers (U.S.P.N. 45,854, issued January 10, 1865) as well as one for an improvement in the manufacture of cutlery (U.S.P.N. 60,048, issued November 27, 1866).

By 1875, Parr was offering a small scroll saw, and he added the Buffalo "Excelsior" Pony Planer and Matcher by 1876. By 1877, he had added the manufacture of steam yachts. Or, possibly, the manufacture of yachts had supplanted the tool making? Either way, he seems to have maintained some interest in the manufacture of tools, as he was issued patents related to making chisels a few years later (U.S.P.N. 216,969, issued July 1, 1879 and U.P.N. 224,720, issued February 17, 1880).

While exact dates are still somewhat uncertain, it seems we can extend his working dates, for manufacturing tools and woodworking machinery, to as early as 1856 and as late as 1876. Hope this is of some interest.

Don McConnell

Eureka Springs, AR

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Jim Crammond in Monroe, Mi.

>Don,

Thanks for the comprehensive account of Geo. Parr. I've always liked the Geo. Parr tools that I have seen (their paring chisels are especially nice) but never was able to find much information on the company other than what was in the DAT. As always, you have provided the definintive response.

Thanks again for the time and effort that you put into this research.

Jim

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Thanks Don! Lots of good info. I didn't find all that in my internet "sleuthing". Interesting know that my drawkinfe is at least130 years old. Thanks again Don.

T.O.

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Jim, since you have time on your hands...

cooper suter

>...what was the maker name of the spokeshave I showed you last night?

The one w/the triangle "W. J." logo.

I'm remembering a New Jersey maker, but not the name.

Coop.

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Roger Nixon

>Thanks, Don & Jim! That is some great info.

I have a big Geo. Parr socketed mortise chisel that is a favorite.

Todd, good score!

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"Yankee" screwdrivers

Bill Houghton, sunny today yahoo in Sebastopol, CA

>Don,

I always associate "Yankee" with North Bros. when I think of screwdrivers - but it sounds like it was a term referring to a screwdriver type, from the quote. Do you have more information on the original meaning of the term?

Bill

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Don McConnell

>Hi Bill, et al

Interesting question. After looking up the North Brothers dates in the DAT (1880-1946) and the earliest patent for a spiral screwdriver on DATAMP (1868), I've tentatively concluded that the "Yankee screw-drivers" in the 1856 _Scientific American_ blurb about George Parr is something other than what we've come to think of by that name. My guess, based on the wording, "... with hollow handles and a set of tools within ...", is that it more likely refers to the type of tool we've come to know as "tool handles." But that is only a guess.

Even if I'm right, I have no idea if that was George Parr's terminology, that of the author's, or common usage of an earlier time. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who has any information on this.

Don McConnell

Eureka Springs, AR

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todd hughes

>According to early North Bros. catalogs the name "yankee" was used because a Maine Yankee invented the ratchet screwdriver.This was most probably Zachry Furbush of Augusta Maine who patented a ratchet screwdriver in 1895 and who Ralph North may have met in 1893 when he bought a summer home near his in Maine in 1893.By 1896 Furbish had moved to Phila. to work for the North Bros who he assigned his patent. The next year North Bros. started to make tools and in 1898 the first Yankee screwdriver was made....all this and more is in the North Brothers book by Joe Ward.....Todd

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Makes no Sense.....

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.

>How come Ralph stayed in Maine only 3 years?

Good info Todd---Thanks!

Todd O.

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Harold Passmore


>Hi ... we have some kind of a tool .... unsure of what it is exactly ... perhaps to do with shoe/boot making. The patent date on it is October 18, 1852 ... so that adds a few years to the previous entry's info.

Harold

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