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New Wenzloff Saw Gloat

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New Wenzloff Saw Gloat

Philly

>Hi Folks,

I thought you might like a look at my latest purchase. It's a custom hand saw from that talented chap Mike Wenzloff. It is a 20 inch long panel saw, with 9tpi crosscut teeth and a beautiful Cocobolo handle. It also features a taper ground blade and that pretty little nib. The handle is very comfortable and the saw cuts very, very nicely. I spent a fair bit of time emailing back and forth with Mike to arrive at the specs for the saw. As you probably know, you can order a saw with pretty much any configuration of teeth, etc.

If you are interested in a saw give Mike a shout-you won't be disappointed. I certainly love mine!

Cheers

Philly


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Philly

>Oops-wrong picture ;)

Philly


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Patrick Gibbons, Houston, TX

>First let me say that I liked your saw till and I have a sneaking suspicion that was no mistake posting that picture. The saw looks elegant. Is it taper ground?

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I agree with Patrick ...

Raymond in Trenton, NJ

>That the "Oops-Wrong Picture" was intentional for a very sneaky (and well execuited) double gloat. A nice new saw at home in a very nice saw chest! Well done Philly. Thanks for sharing.

Raymond

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Just a thought...

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>I wonder what the thought process will be in the mind of someone that finds that Wenzloff beauty in an estate 100 years from now. Based on some of the threads "Help me identify this blivit" that get posted almost daily. Then the current Todd of the day will dig out the search engine and research the tool and proclaim the identity.

Better hurry up and get a stamp or an etch Mike to make the job easier!

BTW that is a nice saw!!!JR

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Vlad

>Well done! Looks gorgeous.

In my experiments with handsaws and the current spring steel, I've noticed that anything longer than 20" will make it too flexible/bendable if there is no tensioning. Just curious if Mike's found the same thing?

If I remember correctly, TLN saws are 18"

Vlad -who's drywalling his shop and can't play until he's done :o(

PS. I was using 0.034 thick 52Rc spring steel.

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Philly

>Pat

Yes, it's taper ground. And it WAS an un-intentional mistake with the photo (although one I can live with ;) )

And it lives next to one of your tenon saws Vlad!

Cheers

Philly

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Vlad

>Taper ground!?

Where's that Mr. Wenzloff! :o) Now I have more questions! Although I don't believe in taper grinding, we tapered one or two on a grinder at my brothers shop and the heat generated was simply too much for the blade to retain it's hardness even when grinding 0.001 off at a pass. Was it done by a sanding belt? Did you test hardness after tapering? Sorry for all the Q. Nice job.

V.

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Damn! That's nice!

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Philly, that really is a georgous saw, man oh man what a beauty!

that chest isn't to shabby either, so since you "errently--yeah right--showed it to us how about some add'l info on it as well.

Todd O.

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mikew

>Hi Vlad,

I'm here--wherever that is ;>

"Taper ground!?

Where's that Mr. Wenzloff! :o) Now I have more questions! Although I don't believe in taper grinding, we tapered one or two on a grinder at my brothers shop and the heat generated was simply too much for the blade to retain it's hardness even when grinding 0.001 off at a pass. Was it done by a sanding belt? Did you test hardness after tapering? Sorry for all the Q. Nice job."

Got me at lunch--a bit late, but gotta eat sometime.

I also do not necessarily believe tapering a blade is necessary, especially in a panel saw-length. Which is reflected in an extra cost for so doing. Philly's tapering was the first we did on a saw that left the shop and he was a guinea pig [sorry for the phrase, Phil].

But following my exchanges with Bob Smalser, I wanted to investigate doing it. I built a machine which follows using a sen of my own making, grinding removes the scraping marks and begins to polish the blade. The grinding is done using a slow grinder [20"] that is water bathed. No heat at all. To get the steel back to what it looks like new--from scraping, to ground, to semi-polished--takes a little over 2 hours.

The give-a-heck about scraping is it must be done evenly. And evenly doesn't necessarily mean an equal amount from both sides. There are stresses in the steel that affect the blades.

With modifications, I'll cut that down to about 1/2 the time by being able to bypass some of the scraping. With money thrown at the machine, I expect to do a blade in 15 minutes or less for the machine aspect. Although I kinda like using the sen and so I will not stop doing that, I don't think.

Take care, Mike

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mikew

>Hi Todd,

Phil has a great website with a lot of what he has done with step by step pictures and commentary. The link below should get you to his home page.

Take care, Mike


Philsville Web site

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Philly

>Aw shucks-you're making me blush, Mike.

Here's the link for the saw till step-by-step.

Hope you find it useful,

Philly


Saw Till Step-by-Step

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Skip in Falls Church

>Really a beautiful saw.

Skip

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Damn! That's nice!

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Very nice site, and very nice progress shots of the chest. I really like it and am going to copy it. I had trouble at first inderstanding the layout of the boards that the saws set on, but than realized that each saw gets two boards and the blade goes between them. Good idea.

How much would say this box weighs when filled?

What's this vaporseal in which you speak?

Good Luck with your move.

Todd O.

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Dan Donaldson

>Can I razz you just a little bit? All in fun, of course. Your website is great, but one thing that I noticed that I was wondering how you did. It says that it was updated in October of 2006. I was just wondering......

;-)

(or is it European style dates? ;-)

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Philly

>Dan

You guessed it-I live in the UK! I do try to keep the site updated ;)

Todd

Couldn't say exactly how much it weighs but you can easily carry it.

Vapourseal is a great little product-they are small tubs (about 1 1/2 inches round) filled with a compound that slowly releases an anti-rust compound into the air. They last about two years a pot and are perfect for tool boxes-rust free tool! Most engineering suppliers sell a similar product.

Good luck making your own till-look forward to seeing some pictures.

Best regards

Philly

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Ernie Miller

>Nice looking saw! that has got to be one labor intensice beast the maker couldn't have made any money making it for you. Oh Ya you suck!

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