Any transitional users out there?

Re: Any transitional users out there?

James Watriss

>Are you writing an article, looking for specific information? Or was there another question?

Re: Any transitional users out there?

HC Sakman @ Victoria, BC

>In Stanley transitionals that I have, counterclockwise turn moves the blade down.

Chico...

Re: Any transitional users out there?

Dave Thompson

>Ha, it might seem that way. No article here. Just taking an interest, but have little to go on but buy one of each and find out. I missed the last MWTCA regional where I might have had a chance to find out. I was hoping Ellis Island might be a cheaper and quicker solution...

Thanks,

Dave

Re: Any transitional users out there?

Dave Thompson

>In Stanley transitionals that I have, counterclockwise turn moves the blade down.

Interesting. My Stanley #29 is clockwise to move the blade down. Maybe generalizing this by brand is problematic...

Thanks,

Dave

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Jerry Nicholson

>I checked two of my Stanley transitionals - one goes clockwise to move the blade down and the other goes counter clockwise. My only Sargent transitional goes counter clockwise to move the blade down. On the other hand, my Sargent 408 and 409 go clockwise to move the blade down while my Sargent 414 goes counter clockwise.

Jerry

Re: Any transitional users out there?

HC Sakman @ Victoria, BC

>I've got two and both moves the blade DOWN with counterclockwise turn. Opposite of all of my other Stanley bench planes.

It's simply regular thread, not reverse like the Baileys. That's why.

Chico...

My Stanley 25 is clock-down

Kevin French, Antrim NH

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Re: Any transitional users out there?

Mike L (Orange County, CA)

>FWIW, earlier Stanley/Bailey pattern planes used standard threads on the blade adjustment screw. I don't remember when the switch to left-handed threads occurred but I recall it being somewhere around the time lateral lever adjusters were introduced.

Regards,

Mike

Thanks for taking the time to check and respond

Dave Thompson

>Looks like it might be problematic to classify this by vendor alone without taking in consideration date/type info. The transitionals I have are a mixed lot... I'm partial to clockwise, but I think I'll just have to get over it if I buy more through on-line sources. Else plan to buy twice as many and double my chances of getting all of one orientation ;-)

Didn't know about the Sargent iron/bailey plane adjustors being mixed.... FWIW, my Sargent VBM #5 and #6 (?414? and ?418?) are both counter clockwise to lower the blade, i.e. standard thread.

Dave

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Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>I don't even notice which way the adjusters turn on my planes. There's a subtle difference in pressure between advancing and pulling back, and you can feel the wheel getting farther from/closer to the frog if you don't grasp it by your very fingertips; so it's not that hard to do. I don't think so, anyhow. Now you've got me thinking about it, and I'll freeze - like watching yourself tie your shoes and trying to analyze the process.

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Mike Lietzow

>I just checked the "plane feature flowchart" to get a more accurate date on the thread switch. Stanley started using the left-handed threads in ~1888 on what are now considered to be Type 6 planes. This was the second (i.e. two-piece) lateral lever model with the disc instead of the bar and the first model without the elegant bead at the base of the front knob (i.e. the beginning of a long spiral downward in terms of style).

Regards,

Mike

You're stepping into the last stage of insanity

HC Sakman @ Victoria, BC

>by saying:

" plan to buy twice as many and double my chances of getting all of one orientation"

Gotta love the well-greased slippery slope or cliff???? ;-)

Have fun.

Chico...