Est. 1998 — 27 years of woodworking knowledge
The most expensive plane ever in my shaking hands!
Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.
>I went to Rosewood Studio for a presentation by Garrett Hack. After the presentation some of us migrated to his bench for a little informal chat. His planes were on a table next to the bench, and I got to hold (very carefully!) his Holtey 98... A truly beautiful piece of workmanship (and heavy!), at about USD $2800 it has to be...
Unfortunately, I didn't get to try it...
DC
Re: The most expensive plane ever in my shaking ha
Steve Mackay
>Denis ; Is there an image on the Devil Macxhine ? I'd like to see this !
Re: The most expensive plane ever in my shaking ha *LINK*
Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.
>Go to the Holtey site, it's the first plane on the home page...
Holy Cowabunga!!!!
Bruce, a MN Galoot
>And you got to touch it? Did you have to genuflect?
Re: The most expensive plane ever in my shaking ha
Dan Clermont in Burnaby
>Hi Denis,
That looks like one cool plane. I'd probably buy a S & S before buying a Hotley but that is just me.
I won't take my LN's out of my shop to local gatherings so if I did own a S & S or Hotley you'd have to try it at my shop.
Dan Clermont
Did it look like this ?
John Edwards
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Maybe this one ?
John Edwards
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Could this be it ?
John Edwards
>Sauer and Stiener 22 1/2 A1 Jointer
Perhaps Battleship Carter ?
John Edwards
>28 1/2 inch Carter Jointer. Cupid bow dovetails.
Sorry for the tool porn.
Re: Perhaps Battleship Carter ?
Dan Clermont in Burnaby
>YOU SUCK!!!!
Got any closeups on the cupid bow dovetails?
Dan Clermont
Re: S & S low angle??
paul womack
>Do S & S do a low angle smoother with adjuster? I thought not.
BugBear
Sure looks like it...
Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.
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Re: S & S low angle??
Dan Clermont in Burnaby
>I don't think Konrad makes a low angle plane. I am not really a big fan of LA planes and much prefer the traditional styles.
Cheers
Dan C
MORE EXPENSIVE THAN DRUGS !
Steve Mackay
>But way more fun !
Re: Did it look like this ?
Frank D. in Montreal
>Here you go again John! I won't say you suck this time because I have 5 Holtey planes, but I find myself using them mostly for carpentry work and concrete forms these days. I keep my good planes for cabinetmaking.
Frank
Allright all ready...
Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA
>That's enough of that John!
:~D
Alice Frampton, UK
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Re: MORE EXPENSIVE THAN DRUGS !
Richard Rerra
>Astounding workmanship...astounding prices.
Opinions, opinions, opinions. *LINK*
Derek Cohen (in Perth Australia)
> I am not really a big fan of LA planes and much prefer the traditional styles.
Dan
I would break the news gently to Karl Holtey. Should he stop the production of his #98, of which he says "Using mitre planes of the (bevel up) format I found that they worked better as smoothing planes than smoothers and I was therefore determined to design this blade configuration into a smoothing plane"?
Regards from Perth
Derek
Holtey #98
Ditto...
Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.
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Re: Opinions, opinions, opinions.
Paul Kierstead
>I know numerous people who are of the opinion that sandpaper works better then a bevel up smoother, so I would suggest that Holtley give up making that silly plane and go into the sandpaper business.
Differences among bevel-up planes
Wiley Horne
>Mr. Holtey decided to bed his No. 98 at 22.5 degrees. As such, it is a different creature than the 12-degree bedded planes. The clearance is 22.5 degrees rather than 12 degrees, and the blade's included angle is going to be 30ish. Blade sharpness should last longer at higher cutting angles than on a 12-degree bedded plane.
Reading what Mr. Holtey says on his website, he designed this plane to be a true high-angle smoother (52.5 degree cutting angle, more or less) and it is optimized for that purpose.
Wiley
Re: Opinions, opinions, opinions.
Dan Clermont in Burnaby
>Hi Derek,
I like the S & S planes. Allot of people buy Holtey's and that is fine with me.
I have gotten to know Konrad over the years and know others users who continue to buy his planes and are veery satisfied.
I have nothing against Karl Holtey or his workmanship as his planes are beautiful and I am sure finely tuned to the n'th.
By the way, the 98 is not truly a low angle plane as the blade bed is 22.5 degrees
Cheers
Dan Clermont
Re: Opinions, opinions, opinions.
William Duffield, on the Cohansey
>Obviously, you haven't tried applying PSA paper to the bottom of your bevel up smoother. It makes a great sanding block, and backs up FWW's sandpaper vs. hand plane test results, as well, works better than SS�, and results in truly remarkable blade edge retention.
Good One Sir William!!
Dan Clermont in Burnaby
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