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wood threading kit

JimG

>I bought a wood threading kit from Highland Hardware, the kind that has two taps and a wooden handled die. The tap seems to work well, I tried it in walnut and got good threads right off the bat. The die, however, I have not had any luck with. I have soaked the dowels (one poplar, one from brazil) in lindseed oil as suggested for a couple of days now. The grain in both looks straight. But the threads keep tearing/chipping off. Anyone used one of these? Any suggestions?

Thanks much!

jim

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>From the Highland site: If the wood you're using tends to tear, a thorough wipe with mineral oil will solve that problem.

Also, check the dowel sizes carefully, you may want to try one slightly smaller than the nominal size, say 15/16" instead of 1". And I don't know about poplar, but I've had a lot more luck with hard woods such as walnut, dogwood, and cherry.

Pam

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George Makowski

>Jim, I found on my set that the taps gave me trouble and required sharpening and tuning to get an acceptable female thread. The die worked well right away. A couple of things that might help: sharpen the die cutter. check the stock for roundness and size. I have only made 1 1/2 treads and nuts. For that size, I turned my own stock to the size specified with the threading set.

Good threading,

George in AL

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JimG

>Thanks Pam and George!

I sharpened the cutter, set it a little deeper (Pam mentioned using a smaller size dowel) and used the mineral oil. Works great now!

jim

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Michael Recchione

>I've had a fair amount of experience with these, with mixed success. Make sure the cutters are sharp, first, and you can also play with the depth adjustment. But the biggest factor contributing to success or failure with the dies I've found is the sizing and roundness of the dowels. If the dowel is too big, even if it fits through the hole, it will tear and shred no matter what you do. If you're buying dowels (it doesn't sound like you are), the best I've found were from Lee Valley.

The moisture content when you thread them is also pretty critical - they're only actually round at one specific moisture content (whatever that was when they were made), and at any other moisture content they're egg shaped in cross-section. That argues for making and threading them at the same time, before they've had time to deform. I haven't worked at developing the skill to turn long perfect dowels on a wood lathe, and don't have a machine lathe, so I either go for short runs of threads or use the LV dowels. I haven't tried the LV dowel making gizmos - maybe they do a good job. But the price of getting the two most common (for me) sizes covered (1" and 3/4") was just too high to justify for something I don't do a whole lot of.

All the stuff about oil soaks, oil coatings, etc. I've found to be boloney - YMMV. If the stuff is going to shred, my experience is that oil won't help.

Overall, the most critical factor is the diameter. If you can't get it dead-on, a little too small is better than a little too big.

HTH,

- Mike

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just what are you all making with these

Gary B in Central NY

>contraptions?!? the only useful thing I can think of for a wood thread is a vise, obviously you have more ideas, so fill me in...

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Dean Lapinel

>I'll start:

1 Plow plane

2 Bass bar clamp for violin (antique style)

3 Violin rib clamps for C-bout.

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Jack Guzman from Maine

here's one

Jack Guzman from Maine

>I turned the dowels from square walnut stock and cut the threads with a 7/8" thread box and tap.It's my dovetailing vise.You get a threading set and you'll find uses for it.I also have a miter jack on my tuit list.---Jack


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paul womack

>contraptions?!? the only useful thing I can think of for a wood thread is a vise

As well as applying pressure, threads can make adjustable items; tapestry stretchers, spinning wheels spring to mind.

BugBear

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Nice!

Raymond in Trenton, NJ

>Jack,

How wide (between screws) is your vise? Thanks and nice job.

Raymond

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Jack Guzman from Maine

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Jack Guzman from Maine

>The screws are 16" from center to center.I built it to take with me to cut dovetails on a bench with no vises.But ,after the need was over I tried it on my bench and it was much more efficient than what I was currently using so I use it all the time.If I was to build another I would use thicker handles and place the screws higher.The jaws tip outward if I try to hold something above the screws.Thanks for the compliment.---Jack

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Bill Lowrance in Geneva

>Bookbinders use maple or beech versions of your vise to clamp flat stacks of paper or folded "signatures" tightly together during spine glue-ups. And they use a variation (a "sewing frame"), in which the bottom jaw is the edge of a broad base, to hold a series of cords in a vertical stretch while stitched signatures are sewn onto them in constructing books. Lots of fun uses for your tap and die.

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very cool

Gary B in Central NY

>Thanks guys,

looks like I might be interested in one afterall. neat

Gary

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