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Chairmaker's bench finished! (Finally...) *PICS*

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Chairmaker's bench finished! (Finally...) *PICS*

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>Hey, everyone -

With more of a whimper than a bang, my second bench project is done.



After taking a chairmaking class a year ago, and eager to start making more, I needed a stand for my lathe. Being short on real estate in the garage, I decided on a combination lathe station/workbench, outfitted to hold anything I may need to clamp when working Windsor parts. I borrowed some design from my first bench, some from Dunbar's bench outlined in Fine Woodworking a while back, and some from helpful input from Greg Betit and Scott Burr. I decided to include a leg vise and a Lee Valley twin screw vise, thinking the combination of the two, plus a good sized grid of dog holes, would get me through all aspects of saddling.


When in lathe stand use, the lathe is pinned to the bench top by some modified J-hooks and wing nuts; when in bench mode, the lathe gets stored on a shelf below.



The project is being finished kind of anticlimactically because the bench, essentially, was finished last May. All that was really left incomplete was the installation of the twin screw vise, the shelf, and the dog holes.

The bench top is a 2-1/4" thick maple slab from Bally Block. The leg vise is mortised into the top and secured with some 6" lag screws. The base is solid ash; legs are about 3-7/8" square, and the rails are 5/4. I omitted the top rails, similar to Dunbar's bench, thinking that the mortised-in top would provide the stiffness that the rails would have. Leaving them off also provides easier access to the lathe storage. In order to keep the bench somewhat portable, in case we ever relocate, the end assemblies are joined with bed bolt-drawn mortise and tenons. The height of the top was set by the lathe; per some posts on the Turning forum, I wanted the lathe centers at approximately elbow height. Conveniently, this placed the top at a perfect height for other hand tool work.

I've been using it as a lathe bench for several months, and the J-hook system has been rock solid. The leg vise generates a tremendous amount of force. And, aside from some minor blunders attributable to installer absent-mindedness, the twin screw vise went on without a hitch. Now, onto chairs...

...Ok, not quite yet - I really need to clean the stinkin' garage first. ;^)

Thanks for looking.

Scott

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>Just a question...that bluish thing under the bench...where do the pedals attach? :-) No it's ok...the tail dosen't show.

Nice bench. What are the dimensions? Also what kind of vise is that on the right end?JR

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Kevin Adams

>Scott--

Nice bench. I'm in the process of designing my chairmaker's bench and have also received a big thumbs-up from Mr. Betit for a leg vice. I can't decide if I'll use a twin screw vice or just a standard Record-type. Probably my first choice would be the Tucker vice, but they are awfully expensive (I'm sure worth it, but just a lot of $).

It's tough to tell from your photos, but how far did you mortise the front legs into the top? I presume that the legs really act as a large rabbet joint to support the top? Are the rear legs also mortised or does the top rest completely on them to allow for movement of the top?

Thanks and hope you have fun building chairs!

Kevin

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Reread and noticed the second pic...

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>And now have the answer to the vise question. My face is still red!JR

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Steve Kubien

Thanks Scott.

Steve Kubien

>I just got finished installing the crochet and front apron in my bench and I am pretty happy (no vises yet, but a leg vise may come later). So, now you're telling me I need to build a new seperate bench just for making chairs?!?!

Oh, I know that's not really what you're saying. Looks like a nice piece. My interest (for now anyway) leans more toward Welsh stick chairs so while a lathe would be nice, it certainly isn't required. Good thing too because I haven't got one, haven't the $$$ for one and don't have the real estate to build a nice treadle one. Draknives, spokeshaves and devils for me.

I just cleared some space on my bench (I had forgotten what colour the wood on top was!) and I am beginning to glue up my first seat blank. I've messed around with making the sticks on my shaving pony and fettling with my travisher so now it's on to making the whole shebang. Expect me to asking some really basic questions REALLY soon!

Of course, you're probably all used to that by now.....

Steve Kubien

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Re: Reread and noticed the second pic...

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>No problem, Joe, but I was starting to worry... ;^)

As for the dimensions, the top's 29-1/2" x 64", and it's 34" high. The lathe, obviously, is 'lectric, but the scorp/adze/travisher/spokeshaves/drawknives that are/will be used with the bench, aren't.

Scott, turning legs

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You've got it...

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>Hi, Kevin -

You got the details right - the front legs have a 2-1/4"x7/8" rabbet on the backs that the top sits on. The mortises are 3" deep, 3-7/8" wide. The top rests on top of the rear legs to allow movement.

That Greg's persuasive about those legs vises, isn't he? ;^)

Scott

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#8

You're Welcome, Steve...

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>...and - YES! - you need a separate bench for chairmaking!

Ok, you really don't.

I've been doing a mess of turning - have two comb backs started, all the turnings for them are done - and realized that the stool I used with the old bench to shave with my shave pony is too short. So, today, I started a Windsor stool to use with my shave pony on the new bench!

Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?

Scott

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Steve Kubien

Very reasonable

Steve Kubien

>That makes a heap of sense. You get to practice and you get functional and, hopefully, comfortable shop furniture! I wonder how my shave pony would work with a reclining rocker?

Cheers,

Steve Kubien

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Re: You've got it...

Kevin Adams

>Hi Scott--

Yes, I've learned a ton from Greg, both via email and I also had the good fortune of doing a long weekend "chair camp" with him last summer at his shop (a stone's throw from Lake Champlain). I got to try out his leg vice (on an antique undertaker's bench if he hasn't told you!) and was completely sold. I like the way your vice is taller than the bench top (that's the way Greg's is, too) as it gives you better access when shaping parts. Greg showed me how he took a big, honking drawknife and literally planed fresh billets into spindles, etc. Great holding power and it puts the wood at the perfect height for shaving.

Have you used the twin screw vice much yet? I think they're very nice, but frankly I'm trying to decide if it would really be that useful for me or not.

Did you take your inital class with Dunbar or somewhere else?

Take care,

Kevin

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Tom in Tipp

>That's going to be a real nice bench on which to make chairs. I had thought about a leg vise for my bench but ended up with a twin-screw as a face vise. I've added some 3/4" threaded holes to help clamp down my bending forms--not so much that I needed 'em, but I had the tap and thread-box and just thought, 'what the heck....'

Tom

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Where did you get the wooden screw?

Pete Ducklow

>Hi Scott. Nice looking bench. Where did you get the wooden screw that's used on your leg vice?

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Scott in Douglassville, PA

>Thanks, Tom. I actually went with the twin screw partially 'cause I can fit a seat between the screws, and partially 'cause I want to be able to clamp bending jigs between bench dogs.

I'd be interested in seeing how your threaded holes work with the bending jigs.

Scott

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A generous donation...

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>...from someone who lurks here. It was from an old leg vise that was given to me with the understanding that it be put to use someday. Screw's 2-1/8" diameter. It's a beast. Scarfed the nut from the old vise into the back of the new leg.


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#15

About time...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>You got that thing finished! Just kidding. It sure turned out nice!

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