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Trimming/fitting a drawer

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Trimming/fitting a drawer

Steve_Roxberg

>I am trying to fit a dovetailed drawer into it's opening.

The drawer sides and front are made from Oak, and they are through dovetailed in.

That results in both face and endgrain cuts, and the end grain is splitting out on the outbound side. (not a suprise)

I have a 5 1/4 stanley, and a 4 1/2 Lie-Nielsen.

Which should I use, and how do I avoid splitting the end grain out?

I've tried coming in from both sides but that is tough the drawer side is probably only about 6 or 7 inches wide?

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Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

>Steve, I would clamp scrap wood as backing boards to each side to prevent the split out.

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Can you not chamfer the edges lightly first?

Garrett in Victoria

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Warren in Lancaster, PA

>I would make a small chamfer at the back of the drawer, then plane from front to back. The chamfer keeps the endgrain from splitting out. Take a light cut with the smoothing plane.

I often do this work before putting in the drawer bottom. I clamp a board to the bench so the end hangs out over the edge and slip the bottomless drawer over the board. This is especially helpful if the drawer side is thin and would flex under planing pressure.

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ThomD

>First off, you want to set your drawer pieces up so they are a perfect fit when joined together, that way you won't have to remove much material in your final fit. If the sides are straight grained enough to allow planing in either direction, then I would plane both ends towards the center. If they weren't then I hope you were able to align the sides to plane towards the inside. In which case you can chamfer the inside edge heavily and plane in that direction. If you are forced to come in the opposite direction, and have left yourself a lot to remove, then try coming in just past the pins form the front, and then work from the back to the front. Experiment with diagonal passes.

If the conditions are really horendous and you need to remove a lot, you could belt sand it. And then very lightly plane and scrape it.

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Wiley Horne--Glendora, CA

>Hi Steve,

As others have said, you want to plane inwards, especially the front--at the rear it's easier to chamfer without messing things up. But problem #1 in planing inwards is that it really helps to have a long registration ahead of the blade, so that you're not still trying to align the plane on the work at the same time the blade is hitting that end grain. If you have lots of sole ahead of the blade, you can get the plane solidly aligned before you start the cut. For me, a Japanese 60mm plane is about the best thing there is for this work, or equally a Clark & Williams junior trying plane. A Knight smoother is OK also, as is an ECE. They give adequate registration so you're solid when starting the cut. You might see if you can get the same effect with that Stanley 5-1/4, especially if you are able to hold it in one hand, as you would a woodie.

Woodies are great for drawer trimming for a second reason--they make fixturing and unfixturing the work very fast. Usually I just trap the drawer loose against two bench dogs at the front of the bench, and put a stop at the off-end, steady it with one hand, and plane toward yourself with the other. Or just use myself as a planing stop in some cases.

But if you need both hands on the plane, then the drawer has to be pretty stoutly clamped in order for it not to shudder when the plane hits it. Then to make a test fit, unclamp, then reclamp, etc. Given that this drawer is shallow, can you drop the whole thing in your vise to steady it?

If this problem is still seeming really difficult after you read all these suggestions, I would suggest you use a file (for the end grain) and sandpaper to do this fitting, and then for the next time around, consider shopping for a light plane (read, woodie) with at least 4 or 5 inches registration on the work.

Wiley

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paul womack

>It's too late for this time around, but Kirby points out...:

http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/articles/markingtools.cfm



Dovetail Shoulder Lines

When you make a dovetailed box or drawer, the important dimension is the overall length of the parts, not the BS dimension. You prepare opposite sides to the same length and square the ends. Then you mark the dovetail shoulder lines with a cutting gauge on the end grain of the sides. Accuracy is determined by the ends of each piece and length of the sides.


In other words, you front piece should have been marked and cut dead to length, and the DT's made so that the width of the parts is slightly proud. You then plane down the width to match the lengths, and you have an exact fit. If you do this dead-right (hah!) in theory you never have to plane end grin.

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Steven Roxberg

>Thanks for all of the great suggestions, I'm traveling on business so when I get back into the shop I'll give the suggestions a go.

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