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A little fun competition

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>Following on from Frank's thread below about a bowsaw, the thought came to me while I was answering Chichi's question (about using a bandsaw blade) that it was time we had another "Guess-the-saw-from-the-kerf Competition" (yeah, you can tell I'm on vacation). We have these every now-and-then, but not for a long while. So ...

Below is a picture with the kerfs of 7 saws. In alphabetical order they are:

1. Bandsaw bowsaw (6 tpi)

2. Crown Gent Saw (8" blade, 17 tpi rip)

3. Disston #5 (12" blade, 12 tpi crosscut)

4. John Cotterill dovetail saw (10" blade, 15 tpi rip)

5. LN Dovetail saw (9" blade, 15 tpi rip)

6. LV Japanese Rip Dozuki (6-1/2" blade, 18 tpi rip)

7. Z-Saw (6" blade, 18 tpi)

The picture is about twice real size. The cuts are 1-1/4" long (don't ask why), so gauge the thickness of the kerf from that.

The wood used is Australian Blackbutt, which is very hard and grainy. I can see a little kerf wandering in the picture (fortunately dovetails are only half this length).

So ...

A =

B =

C =

D =

E =

F =

G =

Have fun.

Regards from Perth

Derek


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Yeah, I know - too hard. Here are the answers.

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>I had a feeling that few would attempt this quiz. Actually, the real reason for posting it was to illustrate for Chichi the kerf of the bandsaw blade used in the bowsaw, and for all to see the differences in kerfs cut by saw blades that are frequently discussed here.

A = Disston #5 (12" blade, 12 tpi crosscut) (as when received - still on factory sharpen and set?!)

B = John Cotterill dovetail saw (10" blade, 15 tpi rip) (sharpened and set by myself)

C = Z-Saw (6" blade, 18 tpi)

D = LV Japanese Rip Dozuki (6-1/2" blade, 18 tpi rip)

E = Bandsaw bowsaw (6 tpi) (all I did was remove much of the set)

F = LN Dovetail saw (9" blade, 15 tpi rip)

G = Crown Gent Saw (8" blade, 17 tpi rip) (I did remove some of the set)

Picture again below for ease of reference.

Happy New Year to all!

Regards from Perth

Derek


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frank shic (walnut ck, ca)

>good try, though, derek! i was thinking the other day, "wouldn't it be FUN if a woodworking magazine asked readers to submit answers to the different shavings and chips that woodworking machines and hand tools generate?" but i guess it would have met the same ill fate unless a substantial prize was offered!

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The rip dozuki is the only one I could guess

Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.

>Because it had the thinnest kerf (0.015", accorring to LV).

It's a great little saw, I only wish it could be a bit sharper, as it tends to "skip" just a bit at the beginning of a cut... But for the price, I can't complain much...

DC

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Having a closer look at the saw kerfs.

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>Looking at the saw kerfs, it struck me that the grain of the hardwood may be affecting the direction in which these thin blades cut. Can it do so to a significant degree? So I recut a few kerfs in soft Pine and then placed the pictures side-by-side.

I think the differences are very (very!) small but present. Is it possible to deduce anything else?

Regards from Perth

Derek


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mikew

>"I think the differences are very (very!) small but present. Is it possible to deduce anything else?"

Uh, that your hand was shaky from New Years libation?

Take care, Happy New Year Derek!

Mike

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Denis, *LINK*

HC Sakman

>That "skipping" due to its "rip" configured teeth, and in my opinion that is very insignificant.

If you want a saw that cuts wood like hot knife cutting butter, try the item "A" in the link.

Chico...

PS: Happy New Year! 32 mins. to go....


A really nice dozuki

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Re: Yeah, I know - too hard. Here are the answers.

chichi

>Derek,

The bandsaw kerf looks great. How did you remove the set? Just tap with hammer or run a stone on side of blade or use a set tool?

I have never set a saw so this sounds tricky. Would love to make a bow saw again, but was disappointed with the German blade that came with a saw I recently purchased and I dont know how to correct the blade w/o spending lots and lots of time.I have bandsaw stock but dont hink it is good for this purpose unless your kerf above is typical.?

Bob

Thanks,

Bob

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Re: Having a closer look at the saw kerfs.

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>Mike, I think you're right! But, oh man, that LN cuts better and better the more I use it!

I hope the New Year celebrations are (were) good for you too, and that 2006 brings you good health and good fortune.

Best regards

Derek

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>My deduction is the JC and L-N kerfs look superior in alignment(no variance in line) of all the push saws. Look lazer cut almost. Nice comparison.JR

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