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Question on Millers Falls planes

Stephen Kirk in Quakertown, PA

>I was at a used tool shop the other day and saw an old Millers Falls plane. I had thought this was probably just a cheap old plane, and not worth the $10 asked for. However, after a little research it seems that Millers Falls might have equalled the old Stanleys. The plane was a Bennch Smoother, probably about a 5. Can anyone tell me if it'd be worth seeing if the plane is still around? Of course it needed cleaning , but everything was intact and working. I did look at the frog, and shied away because in order to adjust the frog forward and close the mouth, I would lack blade support right at the base.

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Jim DeLaney, Austintown, Ohio

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Jim DeLaney, Austintown, Ohio

>Good planes, for the most part. Pretty much on a par with their Stanley counterparts. They just haven't generated as much collector/user interest as the Stanleys - or even the Sargents.

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Patrick Gibbons, Houston, Tx

>I have 11 Millers Falls planes. Always the contrarian, I bought these instead of Stanleys because they were not as popular. Their consistant quality over a long period of production make them a good choice for Bailey-style planes. The frog is milled flat without the honeycomb so common in later Stanleys and Records. The first four types were all of good quality with mostly cosmetic differences. These all had the patented hinged lever cap that provided three points of contact. I have a type 5 my sister got for me. It's a step down as the hinged lever cap is gone and is chrome plated (the older models were nickel plated) and the frog is no longer adjustable. Still it is a heavy, well-constructed carpenters jack. The blades are about as thick as Stanley blades I have seen. I have read others here who insist that MF blades are thicker. I have not found that to be the case, though my experience is limited. The type 2 handle is not as comfortable to my hand as a type 3 or a type 4. The type 4 handle reminds me of the new Veritas plane handles in its shape. They were made of cocobolo and lacquered with a reddish orange finish that seems to be more desirable to ebay buyers than the more common type 3's. Todd H. doesn't think they have the fit and finish of the better Stanleys. I think he may be right but I also think that while Stanleys lessened in quality over time, MF planes remained the same in build and fit through about the early 1960's. In use, they hold their own with any other Bailey-style plane, except the bedrock design. I am limited in experience with other vingage planes and have always wished someone who had them would make a comparison test of Stanley vs. Sargent vs. Millers Falls vs. Record. Todd living in old tool heck would tell you $10 for a MF jack is too high. Here in Houston where they grow on trees, I would be ecstatic to find a good quality one for that price. You said it was a smoother #5 plane. MF used a different numbering system with 14 being their designation for that plane (a jack). The link below will give you the details.


http://www.public.coe.edu/~rroeder/mf.htm

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Stephen Kirk in Quakertown, PA

>I remember looking at and seeing phillips head screws on the frog adjustment, so by the review on the link you gave, it's probably a Type 5. I saw their own numbering system too, thanks. I was just going from memory that it was about the size of Stanley 4 or so. I may head back out today with a straight edge to see if the sole is flat enough to warrant buying it. I'm looking to use it, not just collect. I don't do much work with tricky woods yet, so I'll be OK if it can't handle birds eye maple or some such.

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Hey I just bought one!

Todd Hughes

>Went to a flea market over in Del. today and what was about the first thing I saw? Yup a Millers Falls plane.... and even more intersting a no.11! This is the plane that is the same size as a Stanley 5 1/4. I don't normaly fool with Millers Falls planes, personaly I think they are ugly and have found that the resale market for most ,[but not all] ain't much but I think these no. 11s are pretty uncommon and this example I believe will clean up to be almost mint, even has all that cheap black paint Millers Falls used instead of jappaning. I thought it was a $10 plane but seller was pretty certain it was a $15 one. I went ahead and gave him the $15 and he tossed in 5 NOS socket chisel handles which made me very happy. I also got a neat all steel big slick of the type I believe they used in Maine and Canada, has a small "T" handle. Think it wasn't a bad day for the middle of the winter

Few years ago at this same flea market a friend of mine picked up a very nice Millers Falls 209 plane, the one that has the plastic permaloid handles and chrome plating. Think he had to pay $12 [talked down from $15 I'm sure] and if memory serves me right got around $700 for it. Was a nice plane......Todd


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Cool Todd, your plane goes to 11! Gnarly dude!

Scott Burr in rainy Ben Lomond,CA

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Bart Leetch

>This is my last plane purchase a MF #22 I made a new handle & knob out of so scrap cherry & sharpened it up seem to work fine it has the 3 piece cap.


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