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Lie-Nielsen #5 1/2 "Hybrid"

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Lie-Nielsen #5 1/2 "Hybrid"

Bob Dodge

>Hi All,

I was just talking to someone about the L-N # 5 1/2. Now, I just bought one on the weekend with the York-pitch frog. I also have the 4 1/2, but with standard pitch frog.

When I use the 5 1/2 to flatten a panel, I'll most likely simply swap out the frogs, and go with the standard pitch. I'm assuming this will make the plane easier to push. Another thought just occured to me however.

That # 5 1/2 has a 2 3/8" wide blade; would it be possible to use a narrower 2" blade from a #5 in that #5 1/2, to make it even easier to push? Or am I just "splitting hairs" here? Are there times where this may be an atractive alternative? Lots of panels to flatten? Would the iron even fit?

Thanks, Bob

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>Seems to me that lining up the iron would be the real problem. I find having good control of the lateral adjust is one of the most important parts of using a plane without getting a bunch of plane tracks on the wood. You could invent ways to work around this, but why not just buy an old #4 bailey?

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John Hoffman

>I also have the 41/2 with the York pitch. I don't have problems pushing it although I am only taking a very thin shaving. If you are going to take a lot of wood off in each pass the plane may be hard to push but I am not sure how much easier the regular pitch would make it. I heard that Charlesworth uses the 5 1/2 for everything.

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Frank D. in Montreal

>Hi BOb,

Why not just get a hold of a nice old #5 to do the rougher work? You can sharpen the #5 with a slight camber, it'll be easy to push and will work very quickly. It shouldn't cost you much more than the price of a LN blade. You won't need a high angle unless you are using highly figured wood. Then you grab your 5 1/2 (which will stay sharp longer if you use the #5 for the rough work) or your 4 1/2 and smooth it out. You shouldn't have trouble pushing the 5 1/2 if you take thin shavings and your blade is sharp.

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#5

I think you are...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Splitting hairs. I don't find it any harder to push a plane with a york pitched frog. Unless I'm taking a rank shaving.

Just take more beer breaks...;^)

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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I think I would swap frogs. Use the 5 1/2 with the lower pitch frog as your foreplane, taking a bit heavier cut, to get ithe board basically flat and fairly smooth, then your 4 1/2, with the higher pitch frog, set to take a very light cut, to do your final smoothing. If you are working with tame wood, you might be able to quit after the 5 1/2.

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Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>Hi Bob,

Think you are splitting hairs. I don't have a 45 degree frog so I can't comment on that but you can use your LN 5 blade and chipbreaker in the 5.5 but I don't think it will make a difference as you are going to require more passes (narrower blade) to flatten that panel

Cheers

Dan Clermont

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Dave Thompson - Champaign IL

>I bought one of these (LN5.5 w/York) when they came out and have always enjoyed the weight/feel of it (...kinda why I'm looking forward to that white bronze 4.5 with York ;-) ). I use it as a "fine" jack plane when my other jack planes are giving me some tear out on figured wood.

Regarding the drag, have you tried waxing the sole? It usually makes a huge difference.

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Pippip

>Hi there!,

Now you've got me thinking - "White Bronze 5 1/2" What, where , who, how much...? Tell me, tell me. Please

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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Whoa, you're getting a bit too excited there. Go back and read the post a bit more carefully. The 4 1/2 is supposed to be coming out as a 25th aniversary Special Edition. If you want more info, go to the Chat Room, and read the log of the recent Thomas Lie-Nielsen conversation.

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Dave Thompson - Champaign IL

>Ha! Glad to hear similar enthusiam. Sorry though, I don't know anything about a white bronze 5 1/2. In the dialog last week with Tom Lie-Nielsen, he said one plane they were considering for a special 25th aniversary (next year) was a white bronze 4 1/2.

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Bob Dodge

>Hi Frank,

Actually, I do already have an old Millers Falls #5. In my own situation, I'd probably be fine simply using the 5 1/2 "as is".

I only mentioned the possible iron swap out of curiousity over whether it could be done. I had just had a conversation with someone, and the subject of pushing a wider blade vs a narrower blade came up, and more specifically, for flattening panels. The other gentleman suggested that he preferred working with a narrower plane/blade because he felt it was easier to push, especially when you're flattening quite a few panels in one session.

Bob

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