What plane next? Kinda urgent...

Re: A woodie that might replace your woodie

Wiley Horne--Glendora, CA

>Hi Greg,

I think ECE makes a real good plane too. But try a Clark & Williams (<:). Larry Williams was talking about an LN2 because that's what the question was.

Wiley

Do these look familiar?

john jesseph

>I had forgotten about this until tonight, remembered I may have had a pic of those planes. Is the low angle smoother yours also?

Re: LN 5.5 with HA frog!!!

Bob Dodge

>Hiya Dan,

Well, I finally did it yeterday. Bought exactly that version of the L-N #5 1/2, with high-angle frog. Should be a perfect complement to my L-N # 4 1/2 with standard pitch frog. Really looking forward to using that plane, and the fact that the frogs are interchangeable between the 4 1/2 and the 5 1/2, should buy me more versatility.

Bob

Re: Thanks guys, I guess...

Bob Dodge

>Hiya DC,

Too bad I didn't get to see you yesterday at the show. I was with a buddy and he could only attend the Saturday show.

Denis, if you're going to get just one Lie-Nielsen plane, I'd heartily recommend the #4 1/2. This plane is an absolute gem. When I bought mine last year, I chose the standard 45 degree frog, but I also knew that I would eventually be acquiring the #5 1/2 with high-angle frog. I did exactly that yesterday. The frogs are interchangeable, and this should add to the versatility of both planes. The icing-on-the-cake would be a few extra blades with various secondary bevels. Rob will even hone your blade right there at the booth, for no charge.

I also wouldn't hesitate for one second to recommend the low-angle adjustable-mouth block plane. That's a very low-cost way of introducing you to the line-up, and I guarantee you, you will not find a better metal block plane anywhere. It's an absolute gem.

Now I noticed that you said you're not quite ready for an expensice dovetail saw, but take a few moments while you're with Rob, and take one for a spin. That won't cost you one red cent, but it will give you a good idea of what to expect. I suspect that you'll quickly be looking to adding one of those to your list as well. Ask Rob to show you what he does regarding the "set" on those blades. Takes him seconds to do, and the result is outstanding.

Have a great day at the show Denis, I'll be looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Bob

Bob, Bob, Bob

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>I am jealous!!! You have the 4 1/2 and the 5 1/2!! You lucky dog you.

Remember to drive the posted speed limit on your way back home after the show. ;)

Cheers

Dan Clermont

Another option...

Dean J in MN

>If you are happy using your power jointer for tasks a jointer plane is used for (and I can't tell you what that is, I've never used a power jointer so I'm not sure they are equiv tools) then I have another suggestion.

Save your money, and complain to each vendor of hand planes at the show that they need to start making joint making planes, dado planes, simple rabbet planes, filletsters, plows, match planes, and if that doesn't phase them, start in on molding planes...

Then, after they roll their eyes at you, start hunting the old tool haunts for the above planes.

My 2d

Dean

Re: A woodie that might replace your woodie

Greg B�tit, Crown Point NY

>Thanks for setting me straight, Wiley.

Greg -feeling more than a little sheepish...

Re: :-)

Lyn J. Mangiameli

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LOL

Larry Williams

>I hope the Norris is happy in its new home. I still haven't seen a more highly tuned Norris than it was when I originally tuned it up. Pat Leach wouldn't have stuck any $50 bills in its mouth. It was starting to show some wear at the mouth by the time I sold it.

Imagine my LN #2 showing up twice in the same thread. It's a keeper. Thomas Lie-Nielsen promised me he'd make the #164 before he even had the #2 out. I used to call and remind him regularly until they were out. I hope every one into low angle bench planes appreciates my efforts and groveling. I think it was time well spent and I'm keeping mine. The #2 and #164 were in the first shipments of their type out of Warren ME.

The #92 has been replaced by the LN 073. I still haven't found anyone dumb enough to buy an English made #92 so I still have it. I spent more in band-aids from trying to use a too-small shoulder plane than the 073 costs and that doesn't count the hours invested in turning it into a plane. Maybe a class on what a shoulder plane is for is in order 'cuz I keep reading posts from people who say the 073 too big. Every time Don uses my 073 I laugh and tell him not to because it's too big. It doesn't seem to stop him and I've never seen him reach for the #92 instead. I wouldn't trade the 073 for any shoulder plane I've ever seen.

The 10 1/2 was another English "kit." I may keep it just because of the number of times I've read complaints from people who say you can't make one work. I could do better today with the equipment I have but I don't think it's worth any more effort.

The #66 has Lie-Nielsen fences and blades so it works pretty well.

Another LN plane I intend to keep is the butt mortise plane. Mine is well used and the first hand tool I bought where I could document the time it saved over power tools and the fact it paid for itself the first day on the job.

I'm increasingly aware that what's ethically missing in my posts, involving LN tools, is the disclosure that I now have a business relationship with Lie-Nielsen. That relationship doesn't involve any of the planes mentioned here and post dates my purchase of all the LN planes I own. All LN planes I wrote about were acquired through retail purchases from LN at the prevailing price of the day. I haven't discussed my posts with anyone at Lie-Nielsen, with one years ago exception and that discussion was months after the post. I don't intend to change that.

Re: LOL

Dean Lapinel

>Love your disclosure!

I always enjoyed looking at your planes...probably time for me to get one (or more).

You fit in my category of honorable WW people with Lyn M. There are others, but you two make a solid point about being objective and honest in your posts.

Thanks-

Re: Bob, Bob, Bob

Bob Dodge

>Lol Dan,

It's all your fault, ;-)). You got me all "essss'ited" as Desi Arnaz used to say.;-)) I think I'll get a few more irons and put secondary bevels on them at varying degrees. I also have the L-N bevel-up smoother. What a little gem THAT is. Maybe over the winter I'll try to put together a few Krenov planes as well. Should be fun.

Bob