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Shavings and Planes

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Shavings and Planes

Garrett in Victoria

>I recently posted a review of Cosman's DVD's on planing. Someone on one of the Canadian fora mentioned that Cosman uses very expensive Lie Nielsen planes, I suppose implying that that's the secret to his success. He also asked if I had actually tried Cosman's techniques.

Well, my planes are neither Lie Nielsens nor Veritas. In fact, they are Stanleys that I bought more than 40 years ago.



In any event, I followed Cosman's instructions and spent several hours tuning them up and sharpening the irons.

Then, I applied his technique in using the planes, and here's the result on maple, oak, and spruce. I can't remember which plane produced which shaving, but I saw no discernible difference.


The upper right one is hard maple:


While this result is probably the norm for foks on this Board, it's breakthrough stuff for me.

Unfortunately, it's now going to be awfully hard to justify the purchase of those expensive beauties.

Cheers, Garrett

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nice... I'm inspired. :>)

Victor Parisian

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paul womack

>Great shavings, and (w.r.t. recent posts) very nicely photographed.

Also a nice driveby on some good lookin' engineer's squares.

BugBear

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>It looks you are just starting on the slope. With a few years practice, you will look back on those thick shavings and realize how much there is to learn about hand tools. You certainly do not need fancy expensive planes, but they are nice to use. There is great satisfaction in working hard for something that we can use and treasure.

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Paul Kierstead

>Well, my planes are neither Lie Nielsens nor Veritas. In fact, they are Stanleys that I bought more than 40 years ago.

I am sorry to inform you that you will have to leave the club. Next thing you know you will be telling us you had the temerity to build a wardrobe out of non-figured wood.

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mikew

>"Unfortunately, it's now going to be awfully hard to justify the purchase of those expensive beauties.

Cheers, Garrett "

Save your money, Garrett..buy wood instead. A properly tuned plane by nearly any maker or vintage will get the same results. For those not so inclined to do the work to get those results, a new plane should be a consideration. Or, a just because purchase--I've certainly been guilty of that one.

But wood is good...

Take care,

Mike

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Kevin French, Antrim NH

>Garrett I look at it this way. A lot better furniture was made with those planes, wo/all the high speed sharpening jigs/methods we have today, then I'll ever make. SO. Why spend more for one plane then I have in a WHOLE SET OF BENCH PLANES (minus the #1 and 2 of course).

The world is full of cheap planes. Knowing how to tune and sharpen one will make you a better WW'a then throwing money down and pulling prefection out of a box.

JMHO

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In defense of expensive planes

John Hoffman

>There are two reasons why I own LN planes. The first is that the sole of the LN's are dead flat and second is that they are made from unbreakable iron. I tried different methods of flattening the sole of old planes but it caused me to turn the air blue. I only really use three planes 41/2, 5 and 7. And in case my wife ever looks on this site, the LN's have saved me time and frustration, so it was definately worth it.

Congrats on your success and if you take the plunge I think you will find it worth it. They are not that much money for what you are getting.

Regards

JH

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Concur with John

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>Before purchasing my LN 5.5, 62 and 8 I spent way too much time trying to flatten soles and tune planes only to get tearout once again.

Once I purchased my LN's I started to focus on working wood rather then working planes.

I still have my old Bedrocks, Bailey's and Spiers but don't turn to them when I am serious about a project and don't want tearout. None of these planes are horrible and I do plan on keeping them but they are not nearly as good as my expensive planes

Dan Clermont

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ThomD

>I don't even feel that LN planes are all that expensive, and not because I'm rich. I bought quite a few of them when LV was a dealer.

All those stupid plane tuning articles about hand laping planes were idiotic, if metal can't be tunned in the time it takes to build a wood plane, what is the point. I had a few Records there wasn't sufficient metal in to get them straight without running into air. I have one Record 7 that is dreamy (just to be fair).

6000 whatevers for a Hotley now that is expensive.

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Concur with concurring

john jesseph

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