Jointing

WOW -- I am just blown away

Paul Kramer

>All,

I didn't expect this wonderful flow of response to my seemingly basic query -- but I loved everyone. Thank you all for enlightening me on the basics and the details. I'll head out to the shop and try them out -- can't wait.

Paul

Re: production

Adam Cherubini

>Hi Moses,

When I'm talking about productivity, I mean with hand tools. I'm not trying to compare hand tools with power tools here. I'm trying to compare what I see as fussy caddoitalling (anybody else use this word? How do you spell it?) with project finishing. To some extent, its unfair of me, but that was my point. Its the same old debate of whether or not you really need to lap the sole of jack plane.

I see what my brother does, and friends and other family members in the trades, and I'm glad and really thankful I don't have to work with MDF. All of us who get to work with these beautiful tools and beautiful hardwoods are really priviledged.

Adam

Wheeeewwww!!!!

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>Hi ALice,

So glad to hear that someone else planes with the neeed to know what is happening.

I feel like I am not getting anyh feedback when I can't see the shavings coming up the throat.

Cheers

Dan Clermont

Wait just a second here

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>Productivity and pleasure are not mutually exclusive. I briefly worked years ago as both a sheet metal worker and an auto mechanic, both of which used hand tools rather intensively (though air tools were coming into major play in the auto trade when I was in it), and one of my lessons from both was the pleasure to be gained from using the tools both competently and quickly. Getting a VW up on the rack and back off in half the flat rate time, or laying out a sheet metal fitting and bending it up quickly could be very gratifying. I can sometimes get a similar state of grace(fulness) in folk dance, where I'm surfing on top of my body's knowledge of what to do.

Not really off the subject, I read recently that studies have found that surgeons who perform a particular operation most frequently are also most likely to perform it most competently. I suspect they're enjoying themselves more too; I think, if I ever go under the knife, I want my surgeon to be happy as s/he works.

It is one of my goals, when I can finally stop doing carpentry and cars on the weekend (when not spending time with LOML), to learn how to use hand tools both better and more quickly than now. Of course, it's not hard to be quicker than I am now; all that's necessary is occasional breathing and the physical competence of a six-year-old.

Jointing - a slightly different approach

Andrew F in Australia

>Hi All,

I finish edges off the jointer a/c the jointed edge is still slightly rough.

What I find works for me is to set the plane fairly fine and get the edge pretty well near square (working from the middle to the ends as discussed) and then set the plane coarsish and take a final full-width shaving off the edge.

Done, finished, dead square and no need to worry about a little hiccough in planing that knocks the edge off square.

(Just check that the board's not in wind before you start edge jointing - a voice of experience here)

CHeers,

Andrew

Re: Oh good!

Arw01

>Having spent a week with Rob in person, he is slowing down for the video. He is fussy on a flat surface when making up a dovetail, but that is because the wood moves even after a few minutes of sitting in the classes. He spends less time getting them to .000 then I spend getting ready to see how flat mine is.

Also the removal of the curlie is to observe the cut the blade is making. If you are removing more from one side than the the other, you either need to move, or make a slight lateral adjustment.

Rob's mantra is speed as he has 6 kids and made his living from making furniture prior to his current video and lie nielson distributions.

Now I agree he is a bit "fussy" when it comes to flat chisels!