WoodCentral Forums

Est. 1998 — 27 years of woodworking knowledge

Glue pots - where to find them?

Posts

Glue pots - where to find them?

#1

Glue pots - where to find them?

Rajiv_in_KW

>I am just beginning get into veneering. So far I have done couple of small boxes where panel in the box lid is veneered.

See: http://webhome.look.ca/~rdighe/DSC00041.jpg

And: http://webhome.look.ca/~rdighe/DSC00042.jpg

For both these boxes panels were veneered using plain 'ol yellow glue & clamped in a sandwich of couple of pieces of melamine slightly larger than panels themselves weighed down with anything & everything heavy I could lay my hands on. My nex project is going to be bigger in size. I am thinking of building a coffee table that is square in shape with four panels in the top each of which is going to be veneered. I am thinking of trying to do this using hammer veneering technique. Now that I have rambled on enough, question I have is where can I find a glue pot? I don't think Lee Valley carries one. should I be on lookout at old tools stores/antique stores? or are there new ones available at reasonable prices? Budget is a concern since I don't do this for living.

--Rajiv

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

#2

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

Dan Donaldson

>There are several options. Joel at toolsforworkingwood carries them, as does Woodcraft. They are in the $110 range. You can also get one of the small Rival crock pots, fill it with water and use a jar to hold the glue. This works fine, especially if you don't plan to do much of it. The main thing is to have a way to keep the glue at around 140 degrees.

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

#3

Re: Glue pots - where to find them? *LINK*

Fred Gorney - Cincinnati

>I have a copper glue pot from Tools for Working Wood. It was about $110. Woodcraft also carries one for the same price, but it uses an aluminum liner. Aluminum liners have a reputation for corroding, which is why I went for the copper. I've been very pleased with it, but instead of putting the glue directly in the pot, I've been using baby food jars in a water bath to avoid any potential mess. Copper also is supposed to inhibit mold growth on any leftover glue (since you can refrigerate it and reheat it a few times), but I haven't tested that compared to using the jars.


Tools for Working Wood glue pot

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

#4

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

Paul Kierstead

>For one project, the hot-pot & candy thermometer idea (google for maybe hide glue hot pot) will get you working for under $15. For veneering, a household iron is also a wonderous help, you might want to pick on up second hand or something (the one you actually use for clothes might not be such a good idea).

For a hammer, you can make one from scraps a bit of aluminum, brass or whathaveyou (Tage Frid has plans for one), or you can buy one, but that is a hassle. If you are really lazy and or cheap you can get by with a piece of wood ... just use the long corner (i.e. one that comes to a point in 2 planes, not 3 planes, if that is clear...)

Or long story short: You need glue, something to heat it semi-consistently, something to press down the veneer with.

Now hammer veneering *is* a skill, so it does take a bit of practice to get it going, so do some other bits first. The iron is a great, great help here, since if you are not perfect you can usually run over it with the iron and erase your sins. It isn't a terribly hard skill, but not quite "apply glue, apply force, wait" either.

It is fun and under-rated.

PK

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

#5

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

Dave W

>Would a 'J' roller like the one that you use to adhere Formica/Contact cement work for wood veneering? I've always wondered about the potential for scratching (irreparably) the wood veneer when sliding the veneer hammer over it.

thanks,

Dave W.

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

#6

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

Paul Kierstead

>I don't *think* a J-Roller would work that well. The hammers purpose is not just to press down evenly, but to actually squeeze out excess glue. You lean down on it pretty strongly.

Also note that the veneer typically has glue on *both* sides (it is a messy process), which might make using the roller less fun. Scratches are not normally a problem if you keep you hammer blemish free and you will usually touch up the veneer afterword anyway (at least to scrape off the glue....)

PK

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

#7

Glue on both sides???

Rajiv_in_KW

>Now I am glad I posted the question instead of making an a** of myself. Are you supposed to put hide glue on both sides? or is it something that invariably happens in the process?

--Rajiv

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

#8

Re: Glue on both sides???

Paul Kierstead

>You are supposed to put it on both sides. It helps with veneer curl as well as 'lubricates' the surface to help with hammering.

I would suggest you find an article or website for it. I learned from some ancient article from FWW by Tage Frid; there are other sources, including some online. It isn't complicated, but not the same as using modern glues either. Heck, might even be one here....

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

#9

Re: Glue pots - where to find them? *LINK*

Hank Knight from SC

>Highland Hardware also has them for $100. See link.


Electric Glue Pot

Re: Glue pots - where to find them?

#10

Re: Glue on both sides???

L. Hanson

>If you have a broadband connection, C. Stanford (charles, here) posted this link in another forum:

pem.org

Includes videos by Phil Lowe doing just that. Take a look the the "veneering" video.

For hot hide glue, Tools For Working Wood has one, and The Best Things has a larger selection of sizes and options, too:

Glue Pots

I have added an article on my website that shows using a Rival Hot Pot express as a glue pot:

A Simple Hot Hide Glue setup

HTH

Leif

NorseWoodsmith.com

👍 This page answered my questions

Your vote helps other woodworkers quickly find the answers and techniques that actually work in the shop.