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scratch one marking gauge

frank_shic (walnut ck, ca)

>anyone have any recommendations on marking gauges? wheel marking gauges? traditional mortise/tenon marking gauges? i had a traditional mortise/tenon marking gauge with pins which i bought from rockler down the street which tended to scrape the surface of the wood so i attempted to file down the fixed single pin by hand but i wound up filing it too short, then i turned my attentions to the sliding side and used my angle grinder to form two perfect knife edges unfortunately PERPENDICULAR to the cutting direction!

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One way

Jim Reed @ Tallahassee

>if it is wood, remove the pin and use a finish nail. I have changed to marking with a box cutter and metal rule.

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Dean J in MN

>Frank --

I suggest you make your own marking gages... It is a nice way to spend a day in the shop. And you can never have too many!

A 4d nail filed works as a point, a broken 3/32 drill bit holds and edge nearly forever however, just a bit more labor getting it sharpened.

-Dean

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well, that's a CHEAP alternative!

frank_shic (walnut ck, ca)

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Re: scratch one marking gauge *LINK*

Hank Knight from SC

>I prefer a wheel gauge. I've used the inexpensive Lee Valley wheel marking gauge (the one without the micro adjust) for several years and I'm very satisfied with it. It's not a mortise gauge. For a wheeled mortise gauge, look at the Tite-Mark (see link). I don't own one, but they look nice. I use a scratch mortise gauge. I would prefer a wheeled one, but many other things are on the priorty list ahead of the Tite Mark.


Wheel Mortise Gauge

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Re: Marking Gauges *LINKS*

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>The finest marking gauge you can buy is made by Dave Jeske of Blue Spruce Toolworks. However, they are custom made and quite expensive. What aI like best about this design is that the beam must stay perpendicular to the fence.

Blue Spruce Toolworks

I use the Crown M&T gauge with the thumbscrew at the base of the beam, which is carried by several tool dealers. I have no complaints about it, except there are some edges of the fence that are improved by relieving them just slightly.

Click on the image to go to Tools for Working Wood



It's the second from the left in the picture, and the second in the list.

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Marking Gauges

dave jeske

>William,

Thank you for the kind words. I have been thinking about marking gauges quite a bit lately and I am working on a really neat one that uses the same wedging beam principle as the custom ones I have made but is more flexible and less costly to produce (hopefully). They will essentially be the same style, however. At my rate of development it will be 6 months! I am a bit behind on my orders; I better get out to the shop!

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Marking gauge recommendations *LINK*

Derek Cohen (in Perth Australia)

>Frank

Marking gauges are a lot like planes -

... you need more than one

... some excel going with the grain, other across the grain

... you can make your own (and everyone hould have a go)

... they vary considerably in price and composition

... some are as pretty as jewellery

... but they all do the same basic job.

In general, a cutting gauge (with a knife) is better across the grain, while a pin is better with the grain.

Wheel gauges (the Veritas is the one I own) are excellent across the grain and are small and manageable in tight areas, such as marking the width of a board for dovetails.

I enjoy cutting gauges for cross grain work as well. In fact, a sharp blade works better than a wheel.

I also have a double cutting gauge for laying out mortises (or it can be used in single mode x twice).

There is also a traditional mortise gauge (Crown) with double pins. I found these pins very difficult to reshape (almost too hard to file). Pins tend to tear crossgrain and are better reshaped into knives.

My favourite marking gauge is an old Stanley #65 bottom pics). Notice that the triangular shape of the fence automatically places the pin at the desired angle for marking.

In my opinion, the BEST marking gauges are made by Colen Clenton. Remember me at Christmas time. :)

Regards from Perth

Derek


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Colen Clenton

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Ernie Miller

>Like every one else I tend to have a drawer full of them hand made ones form Islanders My fav is a goodall Pratt wheel gauge but only because it don't roll off the bench I hav a couple LV roller ones The one of them I like the best is the smaller one with the roller pin knife tip I don't think any one mentioned that one it is great for differant tasks. I have an assortment of Stanley pin types. You just can't have to many. Ping me off line I will see what I have to get you started. Can't sell them can't keep from buying them.

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swallowing my pride

frank_shic (walnut ck, ca)

>ok guys, loved all your suggestions! i especially liked the idea of trying to fix up the gauge with a finish nail so i dug the gauge out of the garbage can, brushed off some of the crud, pounded out the scribing pin, drilled another hole about 1/4" below it and then slapped a 4d nail through it. i'll try to hone it tonight taking pains to make sure that the bevel is PARALLEL to the scribing direction this time!

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throwing in the towel

frank_shic (walnut ck, ca)

>ok, i really tried hard to make this thing work, but i'm calling it quits after spending several hours and still getting horrible cross grain tear-out. i just "invested" in the veritas wheel marking gauge as well as a japanese mortise gauge. hope they'll be easier to sharpen!

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