Router planes, anyone?

Re: Well at least it look better than the...

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>Hi Greg,

THe LN #7 and #8 are quite a bit more expensive then the Veritas version.

Their are some differences though.

The LN #8 weighs in at 10 pounds compared to 7 1/2 pounds for the Veritas. Also the proce on the LN #8 is $475US for Cherry.

The LN #7 weighs in at 8 1/4 pounds compared to 7 1/2 pounds for the Veritas and you were correct with the $400 price.

The LN 7.5 Low angle jointer is similat in weight to the Veritas at 7.38 pounds and the price on that one is $295US

SO really, we should probably compare the LN 7.5 at $295 to the Veritas jointer at $225.

NOt trying to pick on you or anything, Just stating the actual facts.

If your looking for a plane with momentum I think the LN #8 will let you power through difficult timbers easier then the lighter planes. On the other hand you will feel it in your arms after pushing a heavy plane like

Dan Clermont

Re: Need?? Need?????

Derek Cohen (in Perth Australia)

>Mike, I'm surprised at you .... an afficionado of bevel up planes! ... and you do not recognise the opportunity here to play around ... uh set up in high and low cutting angle configurations!!!

You need at least one router plane per blade, plus another per bevel angle.... a minimum of 6 router planes altogether.

And you say you don't "need" more. You are just not thinking far enough!!! (grin)

Regards from Perth

Derek

Re: Well thought out design

paul womack

>In all, just an inspired design.

Ya' think Todd H will like it? :-)

BugBear

Re: height

Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>Of course, you could always get one for each height in each blade type as well, then you wouldn't need to adjust the height.

Re: Router planes, anyone?  *LINK*

Rob Lee

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Router Plane

Wood handles....

Todd Hughes

>are kind of purty....Do have to wonder the big real world advantage it has over a common Stanley which you could pick up pretty easy for 1/2 it's price or less.Also not having the Stanley "Shoe Gizmo" you loose the ability to use it as a depth stop.

....I am sure though it will be a big seller with many folks thinking they just gotta have it because it's new......Todd

Stanley depth stop

Jim Reed @ Tallahassee

>Has anyone ever used the depth stop in the entire history of the plane? I use mine for cleaning up dados and routing hinges. The *shoe gizmo* sits in the box looking quite lonely.

Re: Wood handles....

Rob Lee

>Hi Todd -

We do have a depth stop (the two locking brass nuts on the post) to limit blade projection....

We felt that visibility at the cutting edge was key for this plane - and just really couldn't see the upside of putting the arch/shoe combo on it.

Certainly - used tools are always an option, but finding one when you need it can be another issue. That pretty much goes for any woodworking tool...chisels, saws, bits, and so on. Pricing often reflects rarity, or utility. A low price either either means the tool is plentiful, or possibly not as useful or well made as one might want.

We just try to add to the spectrum of choices....

Cheers -

Rob

Re: Well at least it look better than the...

Greg Sloop, Portland Oregon

>Hey, if weight is where it's all at, I'm sure that Steve Knight will be pleased to know that he can sell his planes by the pound.

The going rate it appears is around $50 a pound.

I can just hear him now... "I'm gonna build me a $2000 jointer today!"

Weight, while nice in some respects in some planes, isn't a reasonable explaination for price differences, and if Lynn's studies have any validity - weight also has *no* impact on performance.

Cheers,

Greg

Cheers,

Greg

Ahhh, your mother wears combat boots...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Just kidding here Greg. You assumed incorrectly. I have nothing against bevel up planes. I own and use several.

I don't like the looks of LV planes, that's all.

BTW, Love the Albert Einstein comment.

Scott, Who's mother dresses him funny...

Re: Wood handles....

Todd Hughes

>The augument of not being able to find a vintage 71 router easly may have held some water years back [ I don't know I see a good many in the wild ] but I think with Ebay and old tool dealers on line buying a vintage router plane now is really about as easy as buying a new one from you. A look at Ebay completed auctions show almost 50 Stanleys 71s being sold in the last couple weeks. Looked like you could buy a real nice one complete with all the cutters for around $50 with no trouble. While always some danger in buying a tool with out examining it I think if you are careful and go with a 71 being sold by someone who knew tools , with good feedback and described it correctly it would be minimal. A simple plane like a 71, unlike say the mouth of a low angle block plane, is not prone to damage or problims either I don't think.

Guess the Stanley 71 was in continus production for over 100 years so obvious was a very popular plane that many generations of wood workers wanted and found useful. I do think your plane will sell well if for no other reason it is different and new and lots of guys like that, and I am sure it performs well. I wish you luck with it. To bad I won't be around come the year 2105 to see how it made out ....Todd

Save the box...

jim reed @ Tallahassee

>it might be worth loads in 2105 ! ! !

But, to do it right, as has been discussed before

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>you have to save the mailbox it was put in and/or the UPS truck that delivered it too.

Re: Router planes, anyone?

Paul Kierstead

>Whoa! That is the first new plane introduction that has made me impatient with the wait! Now I want one...

Hmm, maybe a Veritas Combination plane that actually works is next....

How about a #271 next??

Ross

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Lee Valley Plough Plane

Tom Colligan, Peoria

>Well I thought this subject line would get some attention.

Question, looking at Rob's picture of the forthcoming Router Plane do you think it could also serve as a plough plane? That is, would it be effective in making a groove for a drawer bottom? Tia,

Yes but

Jim Reed @ Tallahassee

>the router is best for light trimming. Routing a drawer groove is best done with a real plow plane.