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And to think that I was actually USING this...

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

>When I read yesterday's post about the Little Victor block plane on eBay, I thought "Hey, that looks exactly like my little baby plane!". Checked when I got home from work and sure enough, the plane that I rescued out of my grandfather's jumble of dilapidated tools years ago is a Little Victor. I want to thank Woodburn Bob for his post, and Wayne Anderson for the additional info that he provided. I never would have known its collector value otherwise. I think it's time for me to take the eBay plunge--as much as I enjoy using the plane, I think I would rather have 3 or 4 LN or LV planes instead to round out my arsenal. I did polish the front of the blade, and will be curious as to how that affects the value. Interestingly, although it is a called a block plane the blade is bedded at 45 degrees and therefore mounted bevel down.


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You Suck!!!

Ernie Miller

>You might regret selling it if it belonged to you grandfather. I would think twice. and then a third time real hard befor letting it go. and then SWMBO has a way of releaving people of easily found money befor it gets to it's intended purpose. Think Think Think!

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dave caudill

>Rich before you try e-bay I would get some advice from those who know a bit about those planes. You might find that there is a collector or two who would pay you good money for that plane without the risks of e-bay. There is a very strong collectors group in the Carolinas that could hook you up with the proper people to assess what it is you have there. And when all is said and done you can always sell it on e-bay.

Look into the Midwest Tool Collectors and MWTCA.org and see when there is another local meet and take your plane in and ask if anyone knows who has expertise on this plane. Of course like anywhere else there will be lots of folks willing to take it off your hands but hold your cards and wit for soemone who is willing to pay the real value and then sell it.

There is also Clarence Blanchard of Fine Tool Journal who might help you out. He is an Old Time Maineiac so he dosen't say much but he knows old tools.

Anyways just my take on it. You just may sell it on e-bay and be done with it. It might be fun though to do a little detective work just for kicks.

Good Luck

Dave

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Ten-four...

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

>...I do appreciate that reminder. I have a few of my grandfather's tools and use and cherish them (he died in 1963 when I was 5). HOWEVER,not being a person of great means, the lure of a sizable infusion into the tool fund is strong. Also, this particular item is not exactly a family heirloom. I need to see what it is actually worth and then will make a decision.

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Great advice, Dave. Thanks!

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

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Clay C in Miami

>And, remember that the $800+ ebay one had red japanning. No idea what that means to value, but Wayne mentioned it, so I'm sure it means something.

Oh, yeah ... you suck, either way!

Clay

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James Watriss

>Ditto the above regarding reserach and trying to sell it in person. I, too, have gone through periods of little means. But the one thing you do have, is the time on hand to research it properly. Ebay is weird, and often very flakey, and that one little plane that went for 800+ may have simply been a fluke involving two men late at night, each of whom refused to back down. Or they might both have been following the practice of bidding way higher than you think it would ever go. Or, maybe the thing is in fact worth that much. But I think you'd be pretty bummed out if you put up the auction expecting to get that much and didn't. Find out what the thing is really worth.

Even if you don't have the money, you can certainly invest the time. You may very well be able to get more. If it sold on ebay for 6, and you found out later you could have had 9... well, you get the picture.

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My 2 cents...

Rob Lee

>Hi -

The eBay price sure seemed high to me...

My guess would be in the $350-$500 range, which is still not bad.

Cheers -

Rob

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Thank you, Rob!

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

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Dale Stansbery

>Now that that one went so high, don't be surprised to see a number of them hit ebay and the next few go a lot lower.

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Oh, and by the way...

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

>...that is a slick little plane for smaller work. How about a Veritas version? I can just see the brass adjusting wheel. Please, please, please?

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Todd Hughes

>Having sold LOTS of tools on ebay as well as at shows I think if you expect to get more by selling something like this at a show or tool meet you have a hard row to hoe.First most of the buyers at these shows are pretty Ebay savy and ain't going to pay more then what they can get it for on ebay, also many of the buyers will be figuring to buy it to sell on ebay.Even at a big show or meet your plane will be exposed to a microscopic percentage of potenital buyers then it will be on ebay.

Hate to say it but lots of cheap guys at these shows as well as guys that are looking to skin you.I once carried a rare and pretty vauable Roedier [sp?] plane that belongs to a friend of mine around a large tool show to try to sell for him. On ebay an identical plane has sold for several thousand and I think the highest offer I turned down was around $500 and actually had one dealer thinking I was a bigger slow head then I am offer me $100!...Nothing wrong with this and if I was stupid enough to sell it I deserve what I get but my point is in most cases the most profitable way to sell something like this I think is on ebay .....Todd

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Great info...

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

>...my thoughts also, given the HUGE exposure that eBay has. The plane that you posted a pic of is identical to mine (black japanned star wheel). Would that be the model 50 or 51? I can't tell from the catalog page that Wayne posted exactly what "complete adjustment" and "screw fastening" mean.

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Todd Hughes

>These planes are little confusing to me but looking in my Walters Stanley book looks like it is a 51...or maybe a 52 whose description is identical. The 1/2 number ones are nickle plated and the no.50 has an adjustable cutter which has a slot on the back. Orange ones like the ebay example are earlier planes and probably bring a premium. The no. 51 "books" for $250-$500. I have seen a few priced by tool guys at shows for around $300-$400 which is what I always figured what mine was worth.

...Another advantage with ebay esp. with uncommon if not rare tools like this is the possibility of two guys with deep pockets going head to head and driving the price up not wanting to lose out on what they want. While this could certainly happen at a live auction I think the chances are much greater on ebay simply because of the large number of people cruising it....Todd

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Rob Lee

>Hi Rich -

We'll keep that in mind...!

Cheers -

Rob

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Thank you, Todd!

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

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wayne anderson

>Very cool! Looks exactly like the one I have, but with a bit less japanning. I think I paid under $200 for mine online, which is the average price for this model. This is not going to bring what the nickel-plated version brought, as it is much more common (relatively speaking). Wayne

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Okay, looks like I may just....

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

>...keep on using it until Rob & Co. come out with an improved version :-)

Thanks for the info.

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WoodburnBob

>What great luck, Rich. I often see things on Ebay for big bucks that remind me of something I threw in the trash decades ago.

When I was a boy my Dad hauled home 30 or 40 phones that had been removed from a city hall renovation. They were originally on the way to the dump. My job was to remove the magnets and innards, and then use an axe to split up the wood for kindling. Very invigorating work for an 8 year old.

If I remember right, they looked like this one from a recent auction. Thirty or 40 phones at $493.99 a pop would be sweet retirement money, if only I'd had the foresight to drag those phones around with me the last 50 years.


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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Rich,

I think that you'd be a wiser fellow to keep it. Sure it's a family heirloom, it was Great-granddads right? you didn't realize that it was sure a rare/valuable plane until now, so NOW is the time to make it more of a family heirloom.

Yeah, I can understand the desire for more tool else look at the Galoot Bragging Rights you have by having this plane. MAJOR POINTS!! Ranks right up there with Rob Brophy's $3 (CDN) #1.

Todd O.

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Todd Hughes

>Well if it makes you feel any better the only reason they are worth $493 today is because lots of other people busted thiers up to, eh?

When I was a kid I had an uncle that gave me a new Hess truck every christmas from the first one they made. Also for my birthday gave me a big wind up Tin submarine that he had as a kid. I filled the trucks up with Gasoline and almost burned down my play house in the back after having them involved in an accident on the tracks of my big lionel train set up. Filled the sub up with M80s firecrackers and blew it up on a suicide misson against the ducks in the town park......Figure today that Sub would be worth more then the car I'm driving.....OH well had some fun!.....Todd

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So

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>you're telling us your tendencies to prune trees with shotguns and suchlike dates back to your childhood?

Your parents must have had gray hair pretty young.

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>I also am on Ernie's side on this one. It's your's to do with as you wish. The fact that it has been cleaned as much as it has probably means it will bring quite a bit less than the one that sold recently. But I can also see your side of the story; I just wonder how you'll feel about it in twenty years. The plane you have now can never be replaced; you can take your credit card and buy a LN plane any day of the week.

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>The block plane they make probably fits the bill pretty well already. it is on my list of things to get, with a champher guide and the whole bit.

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ernie miller

>Dang Todd bring back memories! one foutth of July I took a modle of the Constution that I had made filled it with M80's fire crackers put bottles out the gun whales sprayed it with lighter fluid and set it afloat of a friends pool then we spent 15 minutes or so shooting bottle rockets at it untill it caught fire and went off man that was a blast! His mom still bitches every time I see her that she is still pulling peices of plastic out of the pool filter 20 years later. Being a kid is fun!

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