stanley router advice needed

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Eric Hedberg

>Mark,

Stanley, Record, and Millers Falls all had versions of the router plane. You won't find significant differences between them. I have a smaller version and frankly rarely use it. Take a look at the latest issue of Popular Woodworking for how to make your own. They're easy to make and given the cost of picking one up with all the parts, a good deal. I'll attach a link below. Consider skimming through Andy Rae's "Choosing and Using Hand Tools" for some good how you would use it info. Eric


$5 Router Plane

Re: stanley router advice needed

Dave Anderson Chester, NH

>Because I want to help you out on your slide down the slippery slope, I will make the suggestion that you will need a minimum of 2 and perhaps even 3 router planes to satisfy your needs. For small work a Stanley #271 mini router plane will be invaluable, particularly if you decide to do narrow dados or need to flatten the bottom of a recess for a piece or pieces of inlay. Then there is the full sized router, a Stanley #71 or #71 1/2 or the equivalent by another manufacturer. Here is where we decide if the 3rd tool is necessary. The various versions (or types if you will) over the years Stanley made the tool are either open or closed throated. I contend that having both is a real benefit. I use my more modern closed throat version when doing most work, but the open throat is really useful when you need a better view of the cutter for precision work. If you would like to view pictures of both types, go to Patrick Leach's "Blood and Gore" which argualbly is the seminal work on Stanley products. See, I'm always pleased to a shove toward the edge of the slope.

Just say NO to old tools

Eric Hedberg

>I got hooked on old hand tools when I was a kid. It destroyed my life. Pretty soon I was digging around in dumpsters looking for lever caps or old totes. Sometimes I hung out at the dump with the other tool junkies. I ignored my wife, my kids. I didn't have time to make anything in my shop. I just wanted one more tool. If my Dad had warned me about guys like Dave, I might still have some savings;-) Eric (Who now buys new hand tools. Is that like getting methadone?)

Re: stanley router advice needed-Rob Lee

Frank Martin (Chicago, IL)

>If I remember correctly Rob Lee is planning to come up with one. May be he can chime in. Considering how they have improved upon all the other plane designs, more than likely Veritas version of the router plane will be a better one also.

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Mark Kuzee

>Thanks Dave,

Believe me I am no stranger to the slope. In fact from where I am right now I can only look up. Just need a little data on routers.

Mark "hey,you wanna buy a saw?" Kuzee

Re: stanley router advice needed-Rob Lee

Dean in Burlington

>I beleive LN is also coming out with one.

Handy tool

Jim Reed @ Tallahassee

>I use mine all the time to inlet hinges. Here is the process--1)Place hinge where you want it and cut around all edges with a box cutter, 2)Use a chisel sitting on the boxcutter edge to mark the edges to depth, 3)Use the chisel to cut a wedge from inside, 4)Set router blade depth to thickness of the hinge, 5)Rout from the open side to all the wedges. Takes about 1 min per hinge side. Good luck.

I'm curious, Dave

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>I picked up a 71-1/2 (closed throat) originally, and later found a truly sweet 71 (open throat), so of course I bought it. I'm curious why you more often use the closed throat.

Good question Bill

Dave Anderson Chester, NH

>I suppose that in truth it is a combination of sheer habit (I bought the #71 first) and the fact that it feels a bit more stable to me as I approach the edge of a board. I find that I work a little bit slower with the #71 1/2.

Re: Just say NO to old tools

Dave Anderson Chester, NH

>Yes it's like methdone or offering an alcoholic a bottle as a Christmas present.

Re: stanley router advice needed-Rob Lee

Rob Lee

>Hi Frank -

Yes - ours should be ready late summer/early fall...

Don't know that there's a quantum leap in what it does, compared to the Stanley, but there it will be an awful lot nicer to use, and adjust.

Cheers -

Rob

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Christopher Fitch @ Memphis

>Any design or CAD pics available for the masses?

;)

Re: stanley router advice needed-Rob Lee

Frank Martin (Chicago, IL)

>Thanks for the update Rob.

I look forward to the release of this plane. So far I have never really needed to use one, but will see if yours will make me think differently.

I am really waiting for the LA jointer though:-))

Re: stanley router advice needed-Rob Lee

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>I'm trying to picture where the two setscrews will go for lateral adjustment...

Bill, trying to maintain straight face as I type this

Re: stanley router advice needed-Rob Lee

Rob Lee

>.... sure.... ruin the surprise.... :)

Cheers -

Rob

(off for the long weekend)

Re: stanley router advice needed-Rob Lee

Rob Lee

>Hi -

Nope - no leaky stuff yet...while we have the pre-prod castings, there're a fair number of machined parts yet to produce...

Cheers -

Rob

Re: stanley router advice needed

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>To grease the slope and give Mark another push, could I suggest forgetting about the klutzy, uncomfortable #271 and instead going for the ANDY mini router plane kit offered by St. James Bay Tool Co? Reference pg. 114 of the latest issue of FWW for a photo of another, larger SJBTC router. At $125, complete, it's a bit more than a Stanley, but that's what the SGFH is for, right?

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Wendell @ Murphy, TX

>Rob, I am hallucinating or did you mention on another forum that the blades for your upcoming router will work in the #71 style routers also?

I search for the post to comfirm but couldn't find it. I am starting to think I read too many forums but probably not as many as you :) Wait just found it, you leaked it to the Aussies :)

Wendell


http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=17207

I heard........

Eric Hedberg

>The sides are ground flat with little thumb recesses so you can shoot dadoes for breadboard ends. Eric

Jeez those Aussies

Eric Hedberg

>They seem to get everything a day earlier;-)

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Since my Stanley 271 cost me less than $25 and 3 blades were $16.05, I'd say $125 is a lot more than the Stanley. It also works fine for my purposes, making inlays a la Steve Latta.

Pam

Yeah, but they're also always a day older

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>A WHOLE lot more! "A bit more" is a figure of speech, in case anyone missed it, irony by understatement. I suppose an English major would have a name for it, in at least five syllables. The $5 router in the latest issue of one of the woodworking periodicals should work well enough. Big bucks don't keep us from lusting after Wayne Anderson's planes, or Carreras and Testarossas, even if most of us don't ever really hope to own one.

As used in hinge mortising

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>Jim

You're right - routers are great for hinge mortising. I just happened to have some pics on my computer that I took a while back (see below).

My question: In these pics (a little faint I'm afraid) I am planing/chiseling with the grain (huon pine). At other time I do this across the grain. What do others do? How do others approach this task?

Regards from Perth

Derek