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Completed Chair Class

Mike Jurnigan

>This past winter and through the spring I held a Windsor Chair class at my shop. I had a gentleman that worked with me retire the first of the year, and he wanted to learn how to build a Windsor Chair. I agreed to assist him and another one of my former students to build the Lancaster County Fanback that was done a couple of seasons ago on the New Yankee Workshop, however we did more handwork than Norm did with his chairs. I did something with this class I had never done before and that is to do a chair class with a chair that I had never built prior to the class. Both of these students got to see first hand how a chair is built the first time and the processes used to work out the little “bugs” that pop up during the building of a first chair. The two gentleman, Bob Rudy and John Allman, and I got together this past week to celebrate, somewhat belatedly, the completion of our chairs.

I always build a chair during the class. Bob wanted to build a pair, which is what extended the time for the class, as I agreed to see him through two chairs. (We did the class on weekends) John built a single chair, which he informed us that he has a sale for as soon as it gets painted. This particular chair should be considered for an advanced chair class. John would fit in the advance chair builder category, however Bob had never built a chair and had not done any turning prior to this class and these were fairly complicated turnings for a beginner to accomplish. As you can see, he did extremely well for his first attempt at turning. Overall, I consider the class a huge success; a beginner who did two excellent advance chairs, one who already has a sale for his chair and a chair for the LOL that she can now call her own. Now to get busy and paint this chair and a Dunbar styled Nantucket Fanback for me and two Rodbacks to go with the table pictured below. Thanks for looking and reading.

Mike

Left to right: Bob Rudy, myself, John Allman


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Mike Jurnigan

>We toast our completion by using our new chairs.


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Jeremy Osner

>Lovely chairs -- how are the arms joined to the backs? I have only built a sack-back myself.

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington Ontario

>Never sat in one are they more comfortable than the Sack back chairs. I've made a few Sack backs and no one seems to find them comfortable. I'm also curious how you joined the arm onto the back. Thanks

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Bill Murphy/Reading,PA.

>Congratulations, they are beautiful chairs.

Someday, I'll attempt one of those.

Bill

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Cool, what a great time you all had. So where do you live?

Pam

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Jeremy Osner

>Really, no one seems to find them comfortable? I know I'm biased but I think the sack back is a very comfortable seat, and have never known anyone not to like it.

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington Ontario

>I have a nice 1880's house and they do look good in it that's why I took the course and built them. Honestly no one find's them the least bit comfortable at all to sit in. Never had anyone ask for one either.

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Answer to questions on the chairs

Mike Jurnigan

>Thanks for looking and your comments. For those of you that had questions about the chairs: Legs are hard maple, seats are white pine, with John trying basswood for his seat, (the basswood worked extremely well and held detail nicely), long spindles red oak, short spindles turned from hard maple, crest/comb white oak, arms are poplar or soft maple. (Bob is a carver and does not like carving poplar) The arms are attached to the back posts with a screw counterbored and plugged through the post and into the arm.

For Pam, my shop is located in Suffolk, VA, which is the largest city (area) in Virginia. Suffolk is in the Tidewater area and is located just west of the Norfolk/Virginia Beach area.

The chairs are very comfortable and roomy, however it is a lounging chair due to the back angle. It is not a chair that you would use at a desk or dining table. It would be an ideal chair to sit in while having a nice conversation with family or friends or looking at TV.

For Jim in Burlington I have only had 1 or 2 people say that my sackbacks were uncomfortable and these were huge guys that fit into the chair (width wise) very tightly. Several things come into play that affects the comfort level. (i.e seat height, seat angle, back lean, depth of seat carving) Where did you take your class?

Again thanks for looking and your comments and questions.

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Bob Rudy

>This was among the most enjoyable classes I have ever taken.

Mike employs techniques learned from Langsner/Dunbar plus a few of his own. Most important to me was the manner in which he conveyed the material. From splitting the oak log, bending the crest rail, selecting and shaving spindles, etc. Mike fully explains each technique as he also builds a chair. His patience and good humor helped us both survive my first spindle turnings. In the final analysis, the lady who got me into this (my wife) is VERY happy with her two Windsor chairs. Would I do it again? Absolutely! Thanks again Mike for a great class!

Those of you concerned about comfort, my wife and I consider these very comfortable chairs.

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington Ontario

>I took the class off of John Robinson in Kettleby ontario. His work and students of his has been in FWW. Thanks for your answers.

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Tony Augruso

>Hi Jim,

I took his sack back class as well, about a year and a half ago. Since then I'v completed one more chair and should have 2 more completed in the next month. I have not had anyone complain about the chairs. I sit in one and find it quite comfortable. Certainly a magnitude better than anything you can buy at most so-called furniture stores. If you want to get together and compare notes, I have a couple of weeks vacation coming up.

Tony

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On the comfort of a sack-back Windsor. *LINK*

Edward Damewood, Northern Alabama, USA

>As a point of conversation, I've made two sack-backs (both under expert tutelage, so I mean no boast by that). I believe the second chair to be a fair bit more comfortable than the first. Interestingly enough, except that the hands differ slightly, it is tough to tell the chairs apart visually -- even when they are sitting side by side.

I have examined these chairs critically many times -- both with eye and arse -- because I want the next chair(s) to improve. And the only conclusion that I have? The dishing in the seats differs -- and oh so subtly. On the more comfortable chair, the dishing is a little deeper and a little further back in the seat, and it just plain feels better to sit in it. On the less comfortable chair, the deepest part of the dishing is more to the middle of the seat, and it tends to make you slide forward onto your tailbone and away from your lower back support. (Please see related thread at link below.) I was surprised at what a comfort difference there was, given how difficult it is to see the difference in the chairs. (In the spirit of full disclosure, it takes the eyes and hands together to "see" the difference.)

As far as comfort goes, my better sack-back is *not* more comfortable than the La-Z-Boy recliners -- but it beats the snot out of the eight "mission-style" wooden chairs that go with the dining room table and the crippling ladder-backs that still sit, embarrassingly enough, around the kitchen table. (Shoot -- that that goes for the lesser sack-back as well.)

I am curious: What do you find uncomfortable about your sack-back chairs? I would very much like to know. My sight-unseen and off-the-cuff bet is that the seat dishings could use some tweaking. As for me, I haven't decided whether to tweak mine or keep them as-is for purposes of comparison. We'll have to see how daring I'm feeling the next time I'm painting chairs!

Regards,

ED


Seat-comfort talk on WindsorChairResources.com

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Jeremy Osner

>Edward -- that's interesting to me because when I built my sack back, I remember thinking that I was taking a great deal of wood out of the seat when I was dishing it, looking at other students who were doing it more likely and hoping I was not screwing it up. Sounds like I did the right thing, though inadvertently.

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