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Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

>I've started gathering some molding planes as well as various hollows & rounds. I just got a pair made by:

John Moseley & Son

54-55 Broad St. Bloomsbury

London

They are #18 planes and are skewed. They appear to have never been used. Does anyone have info on the maker? Also, are skewed h&r planes common? I've been studying Todd Herli's video and want to make myself an h&r set and like this skewed pair.


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Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

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Neal (San Jose)

>Skewed H & Rs are not as common as straight ones. I've only used straight ones, but the difference (I've been told) is that you almost have to use a fence with a skewed one. Straight ones are sort of self-guiding. I just carfully run the first pass somewhere near where I want wood removed, and subsequent cuts will follow in the track the first cut makes. Corrections are easy; just push the plane toward the direction I want to move the cut. Skewed planes will tend to run off toward the high (forward) side of the blade. HTH Neal

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Barry Va Beach

>Congrats on your purchase. Moseley was a selle of tools located in England in the 1800's. I think your stamp says John Moseley & Son

54-55 Broad Street, Bloomsbury London, if so it was likely made between 1862 and 1880. He also did business, at different times as Moseley & Son

London(1819-1830)and Moseley & Son,New St. Covt Garden London. Good luck with them. Barry

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Thanks, Barry.

Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

>How could these be 150+ yrs. old and have seen little or no use?

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Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

>I appreciate your comment very much, Neal. It certainly makes sense to me. I'll try them out and see what happens.

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jim reed @ Tallahassee

>1. Looks like the angle of the blade is higher than usual. Are these York pitch?

2. Skew blades slice rather than cut and are easier to track than non-skewed planes.

I think most CABINETMAKER H&Rs were skew and york pitch because that combo works better on harder woods. Try your planes on soft poplar or pine and then try them on some cherry. Nice planes. Good luck with finishing the set.

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Looks like you're correct, Jim.

Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

>The bed angle is between 54 & 55 deg. on the skewed planes. That compares to a 48 deg. bed on a non-skew #14 I have. I won't be able to try the planes until later this week & I'll let you know how they do on soft vs. hard wood.

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Larry Williams

>Actually, British hollows and rounds with the 5º skew are pretty common. The 55º pitch is middle pitch where York pitch is 50º.

I wouldn't call them easier to track. In fact, even the 5º skew will cause them to drift in the cut. It's a good idea to guide these, at least for the initial shaping, against a batten.

Moseley was one of the most prolific plane makers there was. He's part of a long continuous line in a firm that spanned 217 years making essentially the same products. It started out in 1748 with William Maddox going through George Mutter and John Moseley ending with William Marples who finally closed in 1965. The Moseley firm lasted for more than a hundred years and was dominant in the British plane industry. It's a pretty impressive history.

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Hey Larry

Dan Donaldson

>Long time no hear from. Nice to see you here. How is everything going these days?

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Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

>Thanks, Larry. How are the new plane floats progressing? I'm looking forward to purchasing a set.

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Larry Williams

>I actually have some here. I've been sitting on them waiting for some production issues to be ironed out. I've sold some based on the prices I was given but would feel better about selling them when things are a little more firm. The floats turned out great, I'm pretty pleased.

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