Plane building failure

Well, at least it *looks* cool!

Jonathan Kaplan (OR)

>I posted a bit ago on a high-angle, bevel-up krenov-style plane I'd made... Now that I've used it a bit more, I must say that I'm not inclined to make another one in that pattern (it's OK, but not great -- many of the same problems as you describe)... But before I made that plane, I'd made another in the roughly the same style, but never got it to work well at all, and after trying various things for a while, eventually ended up with a bunch of random chunks of wood rather than a plane. :)

But none of those efforts ever looked as cool as yours, so even if yout plsnr doesn't work for you, well, you are still one up on me!

jk

Re: Great Approach and a Refreshing Post

Doug Evans

>Hi Matti:

It is what we make of our unsuccessful attempts that truly differentiates us. In my own experience I can recall spending more than six months and three attempts at creating our shoulder plane. Eventually the perserverance paid off!

My young son (he's nine) is learning this now. For the past year or more he has made three attempts at playing competitive baseball. Although he trains winter and summer, he has been somewhat limited primarily by his heavier physique. With each set-back, we have admitted and addressed weaknesses. We have looked at the positions he is best suited for and added versatility. Finally he has come into his own and the work has paid off. His first game was Monday night and he hit a deep RBI double followed by two singles in his three at bats. He did a stellar job at Catching, as well. He is a year underage but will likely pitch tonight. At nine he has good control with average speeds of about 46 to 47 mph. Who'd have thought he had such a hard time finding a spot on a good team?

It's all in the approach and learning to have fun along the way.

Kudos,

Doug

Re: Great Approach and a Refreshing Post

ken c

>Doug,

How are you me old son?

Your boy is doing well at 46mph. I recently held my 7 yr olds birthday at a local baseball joint where they had a radar gun. Having criticised major leaguers for their "pathetic" 85mph fastballs, I was shocked to find out that mine is 63mph!

Woodworking is not the only hobby that can humble us......

Ken.

low angle , bevel down = success

bill tindall

>Had you turned the blade the other way it would have been a success. When bedded at 35 degrees an iron ground at 25 degrees has plenty of clearance and at an effective angle of 35 degrees it will be even "lower angle" than the traditional bevel up low angle plane.

As a demonstration to skeptics that this indeed works I once made a continuous shaving across 16" of soft basswood endgrain.

Not a failure

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Matti ,

Anytime you spend time doing something constructive and it dosen't work out as invisioned it is still not a failure, as somewhere in the process you leaned SOMETHING! I think your plane looks god, and I'm sure that you'll eventually get it to do something. Would be interested to hear what happens when you turn the blade over as Bill suggested.

Todd O.

Don't feel bad

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>I suspect I'd have a hard time breaking moped speeds.

One of my colleagues in physics

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>says that an experiment is a failure only if you don't design it well enough to test your hypothesis. If it is designed well enough, the outcome can't be a failure: your hypothesis is supported or it's not.

Looks like you've determined that bevel up low angle planes shouldn't be made of wood - a useful lesson.

Humbling isnt it...

Doug Evans

>Hi Ken:

I would be glad to be somewhere near 63 right now. In fact, I am wondering how many more years I will have before I cannot catch him. The coach pitched him one inning in last nights exhibition - three up/three down.

We're doing well - running a little ragged now with the balance between learning new equipment, building planes and getting stuff out the door. Having fun though.

Cheers,

Doug