Stanley 71P plane

Re: Stanley 71P plane

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>What is a #71P? Do you have a physical example of such a thing, or are you just reading someone's typographical description somewhere? There is no mention of such a designation in Walter, neither in his description of theStanley #71 and # 71 1/2 routers nor in the type studies of either of these models.

Note, however, that the #71 was very commonly copied by patternmakers, since it was very easy to make with their tools and skills in their working environments, and was very commonly used by them. Personalizing the casting, so the homemade router didn't get lost in a large shop, was also a common practice. It is very easy to tell whether the pattern for the casting of any given router was a #71 instead of one of Stanley's original patterns, since a forgery would be measurably smaller than an original.

I'm confused

Jack Guzman from Maine

>Why would a forgery have to be smaller? What if a patternmaker liked it larger for some reason?---Jack

Re: I'm confused

Joe Rogers

>If the origonal was used as a pattern to make a mold the shrinkage of the poured duplicate would end up smaller.Patterns have to be made fractionally larger to compensate for this. Hence Shrink rules.JR

It would be smaller because...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>A pattern maker would use a real 71 to make a sand casting for the copy. Castings shrink after their poured. Hence the smaller size. Of course I could be totally wrong.

Re: Stanley 71P plane

Todd Stock

>Seems like a fair number of folks have listed 71P routers for sale. I can;t find anything either, but maybe someone can get a shot of the number as cast.

makes sense now

Jack Guzman from Maine

>See,I know absolutely nothing about casting. thanks for clearing it up---Jack

It is a Stanley, William *LINK*

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>Follow the link to an eBay auction for a 71P, including the box with 71P on the label.

(I never heard of it either)


Stanley 71P Auction

Re: It is a Stanley, William

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Interesting. Note that the box label says "71P" but the router is just cast with "No. 71" and "MADE IN ENG." Since it was made in England, maybe BugBear could help with the interpretation of the box label?

Re: It is a Stanley, William

John Meikrantz

>In the Stanley parts catalog, they list the router parts as being for the 12-071 and then in parenthesis (71P). Perhaps that is the new nomenclature for the plane. I was suprised to look at the Stanley Tools web site and see a lot of planes that I didn't think that they made anymore, as well as some of the new style combination planes that have been discussed here before. All made in England, with little to no distribution in the US. Perhaps they are revitalizing some product lines?

John

the 'P' is cast in

Doug Littlejohn

>look real close at the No 71 cast area and just to the right of the '1' and in the corner surelooks like a 'p' to my eyes!!

Never heard of it though.

Sherwood

Re: Stanley 71P plane

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>The "P" is a recent addition by the Stanley Works, because modern usage of the word "router" in the woodworking setting refers to an electron-eating tool. The "P" is intended to provide a subliminal reminder that it's a router PLANE, so that buyers won't spend a lot of time looking for the cord. This decision to spend the extra money modifying the pattern for the casting is a promising sign that Stanley is recognizing the resurgence of hand tool woodworkers, and we should applaud it.