Tote Plans

Re: Tote Plans

Rusty Miller-Tye, Tx

>There is an article in one of the Woodwork magazines. I'm at work so I can't look to see which on it is. Check the woodwork-mag.com at the back issues and see if there is an index. That will tell you which issue it's in.

Rusty

Re: Tote Plans

Rusty Miller-Tye, Tx

>Robert,

Went to the Woodwork mags site but could not find the issue. Could be one of the sold out ones. I'll look when I get home an try to find it.

Rusty

Re: Tote Plans

Ernie Miller Topeka

>There is some instructions in the articals section it might be in the badger pond archive? If I rember right you oreint your wood so the grain is paralell to the sole drill the hole from the top first so you get the step you need then finis drilling with a samller bit. Some people drill from the top and the bottom. then transfer you cut line to the block with the hole in the proper place then saw out the waist and using rasps shape it to fit your hand. I have big hands so I use 5/4 wood and make the totes a little over size. Use a closed pour wood like cherry maple or apple. Look for the artical they do a better job of explaning than me. It's simple next you will be making saw handles.

Thats funny!

Todd Hughes

>I don't think the reason that a common plane goes for more if the tote isn't busted is because of it's "collector vaule" is somehow elevated but rather because most users , wisely; don't want to buy a plane with a busted tote. I think most people realise if you have to buy or make a replacement tote it raises the cost to them either in $ or time. I'm about the cheapest guy going but I have a hard time understanding going to the trouble to make a tote when you can buy an original one pretty easy for $20...or of course just buy a plane that doesn't have broken wood in the first place. ......Todd

Re: Tote Plans *LINK*

Terry Stapleton

>Shopnotes No. 47 has some good tips on making them.


Shopnotes No.47

Re: Thats funny!

Robert Henderson

>If an object is up for auction and it's value as a collector's piece has been destroyed or diminished (glued tote for example), then collectors will not be bidding. fewer bidders = lower price. Not a hard-and-fast rule, but a good rule-of-thumb. Conversely, if I'm looking for a tool to use, I don't waste time on Mint-In-Box items becaue I know the price will go too high for me. Try to think things through before laughing at other people, then you might not look the complete fool.

Re: Thats funny!

Ernie Miller Topeka

>I think Todd knows a little about tool prices and yes you can pick up some abused tools cheaper but if you look and are patent you will find good tools that don't need fixin got pretty cheap. Todd sells lots of tools on ebay and knows prety much what they will bring. Like you I don't mind using tools others will laugh at when they are first seen. I like a large tote and am happy making one for my users. You cant make Todd look a fool? Just look at his tast in hats.

Re: Thats funny!

Robert Henderson

>Todd may know a lot about tool prices, and I don't mind someone disagreeing with my reasoning. I just don't think there is any call to laugh at someone. Two hundred years ago, my seconds would be talking to his seconds. All I'm asking for is a little civility.

Re: Thats funny!

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I thought both Todd and Ernie were very civil. Todd pointed out very nicely the flaw in your theory; but you decided to shoot the messenger. You'd have done better to listen.

Pam

Now I am laughing !

Todd Hughes

>...I think 199 years and 364 days ago your seconds would be talking with the undertaker....Todd , who Is a pretty good shot with a flintlock pistol!

Re: Now I am laughing !

ken c

>Yeh, but supposing they chose Rapiers or Broadswords?

Anyhow to add my one point nine cents, I don't think there are too many collectors interested in late model Baileys, so as you say picking one up with complete woodwork is the way to go.

Ken

Re: perhaps not

Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>There is no reason to get your panties in a bunch because Todd says you think funny. Around here, everyone knows Todd thinks funny, and we just laugh with him. We can all poke fun at each other and still keep a smile on our face, can't we? There is no reason to take it so seriously.

The economics of buying versus making a plane tote are exactly as Todd stated; it really makes no monetary sense to make your own handles when you can buy an original handle about like new for less than $30. I have made various handles, and I'm not real slow but not fast either; I spend more than an hour making a plane tote; probably closer to two hours, if I'm particular maybe three hours. If I was to calculate the real cost of that plane tote in terms of what I could be earning during that time the actual cost of the tote, if you figure overhead and profit plus benefits like vacations and health insurance that tote probably cost me a hundred bucks.

On the other hand, if I was to work one hundred percent of my time, I would soon be burnt out and I would actually be less productive over a lifetime than I will be if I work about 50 or 60 hours a week, sleep about 56 hours per week, and divide the rest of my time doing various hobbys and spend time with my family. So I might actually be gaining money by relaxing and making a plane tote; it is an abstract figure.

I enjoy taking beat up old planes and making them back into functional tools; it has absolutely nothing to do with the economics of it, and everything to do with doing something constructive, educational, challenging, and rewarding.

Re: You ain't from around here, are you?

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>We pride ourselves on our civility here on WoodCentral. I saw no insult, neither stated nor implied, in Todd's response. No need to take offense, and no need to try to pick a fight. Such behavior will not be tolerated here. Finally, there is no need for anyone to respond to this message!

Re: Now I am laughing !

Dean Lapinel

>I think rather than a flintlock the duel should be with rusty stanley scrapers.

Maybe smoothers without blades...maybe attack rabbits (not rabbetts)

Re: Thats funny!

Alan Hamilton

>Robert,

Geeez!

As an old professor of mine once pointed out (WAAAAAY back when I was in college) no matter how inoffensive or innocuous something you say might be, you will always be able to find somebody that would be offended.

No offense intended--I think I need to make that clear.

Alan

Re: Tote Plans *LINK*

Dale Lenz-Tahlequah, OK

>If you wish to purchase Totes check out the link below. I think Mike Taylor makes Totes for Steve Knight along with others.


Totes and knobs

Re: Tote Plans

Rusty Miller-Tye, Tx

>If you're still interested in making your own, the Woodwork article is in issue #46.

Rusty

Re: Thats funny!

Robert Henderson

>If I overreacted, I appologize to all concerned. Blame it on recent oral surgery and massive yet ineffective pain killers.

For me the economics of the deal is not the primary issue. I have more time than money right now and I'd kinda like to hone my rather feeble skills by trying my hand on a project like a tote.

Re: Thats funny!

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>But pain isn't. Hope you get past the discomfort. Also hope you get past the misunderstanding.

Your reason for tote making is perfectly acceptable. I hope you hang around, there is a lot of knowledge and help here.JR

Was that duel or drool?

Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>...in light of your recent oral surgery and medicated state, might I suggest a drool. At ten paces, you will reach for your most droolworthy tools...seconds will be standing by

First to fill his drool cup or run out of tools is the loser!

Tongue in cheek:-)))

Good idea

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>Three-dimensional shaping, like a tote, is darned hard. My salad spoons can testify to that - in spite of all my attempts, you can still see the square in the handles. So your assigning yourself this project is a worth thing, warming up on this before you tackle an eight-foot high Art Nouveau china cabinet...