Drawknives??

Re: Drawknives??

Todd Hughes

>I couldn't imagine buying a new draw knife since good old ones are so common and cheap though I bet someone will speak up now how nice the new LN draw knife prototypes looked and at only $250 a real bargin.

Lots of people made quality draw knives, witherby, swann, greenlee, IJ White are just a few, more important then the maker probably is the condition. You don't want a rusted pitted sharpened up one of course but also check the handles. If they are loose or wiggle pass it up. I have tried to tighten up many draw knives handles over the years and with most you just cant. With a common tool like this it just isn't worth your trouble. I like ones with the iron butt caps with the tand peened over them.You see some, mostly older English ones that just have the tangs bent over.These handles are almost always loose and should be skipped.Blacksmith made ones are neat esp. if made out of a file but in my experance most are tempered rather indifferently and I'd pass them up if you are looking for a user. Smaller size ones 6-8 in. are handier to use probably for most of the work you will use it for. Check to see it hasn't been messed up and sharpend incorrectly by some Goober which is kind of common....Even in the old tool hell I live in I see lots of draw knives and a nice one isn't to hard to find for $10-$15 or so. Just wait for a good one and pass the crap up and in the end you will be happy....Todd

Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar'

CONGER - the Irish diaspora in Munich

>Stephen, I generally agree with T., although I can not confirm as I dont have his experience.

In contrast to the 'oldies' you can look here ( http://www.djarv.se/startsida.asp ) and practice you swedish at the same time. Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar' ( http://www.djarv.se/bandknivar.asp ) are superb. I believe he smithies all his products at his own forge. I recall he has a re-seller in the US, but the name escapes me (Pam?).

Adj� fra M�nchen... -g-

Re: Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar'

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>This is a lovely drawknife, Conger. I don't know who sells it here. I checked at Drew Langner's Country Workshop, where various Swedish tools are sold; but they don't seem to carry this one. The middle one in the second page you referenced looks like the one they sell. Might be worth a phone call, though.

Also, didn't see any at Dieter's, who also carries GR�NSFORS BRUKS.

Pam, disappointed that Babelfish doesn't do Swedish

Re: Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar' *LINK*

kees

>hallo Conger,

they look nice. I only used the large (debarker) but cut my thumbs, because it was sharpened close to the handle when I did a course in Germany (dick.biz). I have some old, but prefer the new ones.

I have the Hans Karlsson (countryworkshops.org), but priced now $168 (!), so that's not an option anymore. Have the Ray Iles and for me it has the same touch as the HK.

I made the parts of about 15 ladderbacks last 2 years and have the opinion that it's not only the steelquality, but also the touch.

If paying $15 for an old one buy the Svante or Ray Iles is my opinion.

�1 is about 10KR

kees




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Re: Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar' *LINK*

kees

>Pam,

Svante Dj sells to the UK, so language is not a problem I think.

You can buy also from their online shop. Also Dick.biz

kees


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Re: Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar'

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Thanks, Kees. I don't need any more drawknives, but that 14 cm one sure is tempting, worth an email.

Pam

Re: Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar'

Todd Hughes

>I don't have any experance with these knives so can't speak to them specificaly but these are the type of handles you DON'T want on a draw knife you buy. Lots of pressure is put on a draw knife pulling and twistting them during use. With no ferrules or butt cap in my experance handles like this just don't hold up over time. Might be OK for a small model makers draw knife or one that doesn't see much use but I think a handle design with ferruels and butt caps while harder to make is much better.....Todd

Re: Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar'

Joel

>I don't know how the handles are attached on these drawknives but from the photo there is the possiblity on these that the tang goes through the handle and is rivited at the end. THis is a great way of attaching handles - but you are right - one should confirm that before buying.

Re: Drawknives??

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I'd stick to old ones. Their easy to come by and inexpensive, for the most part.

Any good chisel manufactures generally made drawknives too. Swan, Witherby

Etc. are all good names.

Re: Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar'

Tom Price

>68 euros? Hmmmm. Not bad for a new-old tool but that's more than what I've paid for my 6 drawknives all together.

If you have a drawknife with a loose handle, try peening the endcap to close up the distance as much as possible. Then wick in cyanoacrylate glue beween the ferrule and handle and endcap and handle. Yhen follow up with a shot of accelerator. This trick will work if there's a slight amount of play left. If the handle isn't tight after about 3 tries, it ain't gonna work.

As Todd mentions, you want a drawknife with a ferrule/endcap system like the ones shown above. Top is a 7" Witherby with a magic steel blade, next is a 6" Pexto and bottom is a never-used, still has some cosmoline-on-it Pexto folding handle model. The handle on the folding handle model doesn't have an end cap that covers the base of the handle but it's there nonetheless. The blade on the Witherby has a slight belly to it, the smaller Pexto is flat - both work well.

- Tom

Re: Svante Dj�rv's 'Bandknivar'

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Yeah, but only 340 kroners if you can buy direct, which is $48.

Pam

Beep beep - town horn; country horn

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>Tom,

That was one of this week's better drivebys. I've got some nice drawknives too, but none is as pretty as those.

Re: Beep beep - town horn; country horn *LINK*

Tom Price

>OK, that was a pretty stealthy driveby. The small Pexto came from the 'Patternmaker's Shop' the story of which is in the link below. Hundreds of drawknives in that shop, overwhelming, really.

The 'friend' mentioned in the first paragraph was our own Todd Hughes. Thank Heavens he tipped my buddy and me to the place so I could get in there and get some pictures before all of those tools evaporated...


http://homepage.mac.com/galoot_9/patternmakers_hor

Re: Beep beep - town horn; country horn

Todd Hughes

>Yup that was some place.Miss Jazz and me got in to it befor anybody else ,[3 days befor his yardsale was to start] and loaded up the car.Really was TOO much stuff.About everything was screwed to the wall or ceiling with these little hooks.I gave Jazz a battery screw driver and she went to town she was having so much fun I had a hard time keeping her in check and not buying it all. Thought the old guy was going to Cardiac out watching her climb up the ladder getting the stuff off the wall! Lots of the stuff was rough though so you had to be careful, looks like he just bought what he saw the good and the bad.Wouldn't give you a price just kept saying "put it in the pile and we will figure it up" Not how I like to buy stuff.Julie found a near mint A5 aluminum plane and I pressed him for a price till he told me $25 figured after that I didn't have to worry to much. Most of the stuff was cheap enough though he did hit me kind of hard on some hand forged axes. Told me he had 700 draw knives, don't know do know everyone I saw had loose handles! Must have missed the ones Tom got. It was quite a Haul and about a week or so later we went back and got some more.He really liked Julie,[ who couldn't be charmed by her?] and gave her some of his bird carvings which she gave to me since I collect that kind of stuff.Also gave her a fancy REO Motormeter which she sold on ebay for almost $500.She still talks about the old guy with all the tools on the ceiling....Boy, if I wasn't in heaven that day I sure could see it from there!....Todd