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So why did I buy these again?

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So why did I buy these again?

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>I can never resist socket chisels at garage sales when they hit the 50-cent level. Somehow, this means that I've acquired lots of socket chisels without handles. Some of them were clearly struck with hammers. You can tell because the top of the socket is mushroomed, often enough to close the top of the socket or nearly so. The drawing below attempts to show the effect by a vertical section through the socket (no, it's NOT two palm trees shaking hands; that's supposed to be the wall of the socket and the mushroomed top)

We're getting ready for a garage sale ourselves (LOML, who in my opinion learns slowly on some topics, seems to have forgotten that our net hourly wage from the last two was about 10 cents an hour), and I'm thinking about getting rid of some of the excess, starting with these mushroomed chisels. I have MORE than enough chisels that don't need this repair, but just handles (another project for the round tuit list).

Before I offer them for sale, how easy would it be to restore the socket? Are we talking annealing, forging, and retempering, or are sockets usually tempered fairly soft and malleable?

I doubt that I'll be selling anything droolworthy, but any interested locals can e-mail me, and I'll try to remember to let you know about the date.


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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I restored one, once, that looked like that, a Greenley 1-1/4" paring chisel. All I did was beat the socket back into some semblance of its original shape and then filed off the rough parts. It works fine, now. If a hammer could bend it into a mushroom without shattering it, a hammer can bend it back. I wouldn't bother unless you know that the blade is good steel, no pitting, and there will be enough socket left to hold a handle.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>I often thought/wondered about why not heating and beating the destroyed socket into a tang and putting a handle on that. Seem reasonable?

Todd O.

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Stephen Dalfollo-Daley

>I think I rea somewhere of someone doing that....but they wrapped the nek with a wet towel in an attempt to keep the heat rom traveling down the chisel....there are a couple articles in the article section about refurbishing chisels and dealing with these issues...HTH

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Cut off the mushroom....

Bryan in Broad Ripple, IN

>What I do in these circumstances is to first check the depth the undamaged portion of the socket. If it's 1" deep or better, I just cut the mushroomed top of the socket off with a hack saw. I then clean up the top edge with a few file strokes. It's quick, easy, and leaves a nice looking socket. If you put a handle on it, you have to look hard to tell it was even fixed.

If the remaining socket is less than 1" deep, I take a Dremel tool, and grind the rolled edges off. This usually leaves a tell-tale shiney (fresh metal) ring around the outside of the socket. This type of repair is pretty obvious, and I personally don't like the shiney, freshly filed look.

If less than 5/8", I usually scrap the chisel unless it's exceptional for some other reason.

-Bryan

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Hank Knight in SC

>Bill, I've restored mushroomed sockets with a rat tail file and a Dremel tool. Works like a charm. No need to anneal the socket or go through all the hardening/tempering process.

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>your artistic abilities are inspiring! Isn't there some one here who rehabs them for a hobby? I know I shipped a box full off at christmas to some one? I just looked it up Bob Hackett Send them to him you won't get them back but he will fix them up.

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Bob Hackett

>Actually Ernie I have repaired a couple of the better of those poor mistreated orphans.They are sporting new handles,a polish,sharp edges,etc.

The rest of the bunch sit in the back of the drawer with my own batch.They`re plotting something,I can hear them whispering every time I open the sharpening drawer(it`s the next one down).

I thought they were part of the gift exchange as they arrived in the same box as the cool plane you sent.I`ll send you a pic if you want,as soon as Dr Death comes by with the digital camera he got for graduation.That way you can show everybody they found a good home.Don`t you just love happy endings?

Mainely,Bob-Who has to go down to the shop now to calm the chisels.They`re screaming something about hammers and Kansas and some guy named Rupert with a cheap tie and a mullet.:^)

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Cool pic.

Bob Hackett

>Nice palm trees.Is that the island you live on?

Seriously though,I`d clamp the chisels in a vice just below the end of the socket(so the jaws act as a heat sink for the blade)and heat the mushroomed areas to red hot and let them cool before trying to gradually tap them back the other way.

The reason is that all that beating has most likely work hardened them and I`ve had the mushroomed portions break off if I didn`t heat first.YMMV.

Mainely,Bob

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>They were part of the gift! More in the line of therapy for your arm. By the way haw is it swinging? I know the whistle works. I just didn't want hin to expect you to fix them and send them back with out some sort of compensation and as you have more of your own to fix that round tuit isn't in the pocket. I hope to be spinning some handles myself this weekend.

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