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LN vs. LV Large Shoulder Plane

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LN vs. LV Large Shoulder Plane

#1

LN vs. LV Large Shoulder Plane

Mike Gabbay

>I'm looking to buy either the LN or LV large shoulder plane and need some advice. I really like the look and overall feel of the LN plane. But the LV large plane with the two knobs looks interesting.

I'll be using the plane for medium to large tennons. I'm thinking that I will trim the shoulders with the plane in the horizontal position if that makes any difference. I have large hands so the overall size should not be an issue.

It seems based on the reviews that the LV has the edge over the LN based on the ergonomics. Has anyone used both? Is there a distinct advantage to the LV plane with the extra handles over a traditional #073 like the LN? How is the fit and finish of the LV?

Thanks, Mike

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#2

Re: LN vs. LV Large Shoulder Plane

Thomas Skaggs, Foothills of Mount Level

>Much as I lust for many of the LN planes I went with LV's shoulder plane and have no regrets. It is a top notch tool. I found the fit to my hand better with the LV.

Tommy

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#3

Re: LN vs. LV Large Shoulder Plane

Jeff Spirer

>I can give you my 2 cents worth.

I use both LN and LV planes and like them all.

I bought the LV Large shoulder plane as it seemed to fit my hand better.

If you can, try them before you buy.

You won't be unhappy with either, just see which fits your hand better.

Jeff

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#4

Re: LN vs. LV Large Shoulder Plane

Frank D. in Montreal

>I have the LN 073 and like it a lot. I've used the LV large shoulder and find it easier to use one-handed. I won't be getting rid of my LN but if I had to buy again I'd get the LV. The set screws are also a nice feature that the LN doesn't have. The fit and finish on both are top-notch.

As others mentioned, try both if you can.

Frank

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#5

feel of the LN 073?

HC Sakman

>If you felt both the LN 073 and the LV LSP and took a few swipes with them, then it'd be much easier to decide.

Chico...

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#6

Re: feel of the LN 073?

Mike Gabbay

>I did get a chance to hold the LN 073 today. Oddly, maybe, it felt very sharp on the corners and in the recesses where you need to hold it. I do like the traditional design and I have always been a huge fan of the LN planes but it seems based on all the reviews that the LV shoulder plane may be the better choice.

Worse case is if I don't like the LV I can always return it. I wish they would sart coming to the WW'ng shows (HINT to ROB :))

Mike

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#7

Neither

Dan CLermont in Burnaby

>My preference is for the LN 60 1/2R. I find it does everything I need and I like the fact it has a 1 1/2" wide blade.

Don't really care if it doesn't have as much "body" to register on the tenon as a standard Shoulder plane as it has never been a problem for me.

My two cents, I'll leave now,

Dan Clermont

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#8

Re: feel of the LN 073?

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Nope, it's not odd that you should feel that it is too sharp on the corners. It is, right out of the box. The LV is better in that respect, except in one place, the hole in the top of the casting, in front of the handle. The LV still could use some improvement in other places, but doesn't need quite as much work with a fine file and some very fine sand paper. Both planes are much improved and much easier to hold and control if the arises are rounded just a little where your hand meets the plane. The worst spots on the L-N are where the pin that the handle pivots on goes through the body casting, the edges of the cast indentations in the sides of the nose, and the top rear corners of the moveable nose block.

Like all tools, you will have to consider that either one of these planes is a kit, just a very nearly complete kit. I own the L-N, and have used the LV only briefly, but I think the LV is more plane for less money. At least, I think you will find the learning curve a little less steep at the onset. It won't produced significantly better results than the L-N in a trained hand, but it's eaiser to set up and adjust.

All these opinions, and those of the others, have been expressed many times on this forum, so you need to use the Search function to access the accumulated wisdom. The problem is that there are very few people here who have used both extensively. I don't think I remember anyone who owns and has used either one of these extensively and still would rather use something else for the task these were designed to do best.

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#9

Re: feel of the LN 073?

Rob Lee

>Hi Mike -

I think we went to something like 12-15 shows last month, and have another 11 this month...

Where are you???

Cheers -

Rob

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#10

Re: feel of the LN 073?

MikeG

>Rob - Sorry to drag you in to this. I was at the Chantilly VA show and did not see your booth. The list of exhibitors had LV listed. Maybe you were tucked away in the corner and I missed you.

Mike

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#11

Re: Neither

MikeG

>Dan - That is what I've been using. The 60 1/2 is a wonderful plane. extremely versitile. However, I find myself working more and more with M&T joints and cleaning a shoulder with the 60 1/2 for me does not seem to be as effective as I think a shoulder plane would be. Although it could just be my technique. It seems that my hands are always in the way and that's what has led me to the large shoulder plane.

Thanks, Mike

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#12

Re: feel of the LN 073?

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>LV wasn't in VA this year. Perhaps we will win out in the conflict pool next year.

(if Rob keeps hearing us beg:-) )JR

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#13

Re: Neither

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>Dan,

You like using the 60�R on shoulders? (not cheeks)

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#14

Re: LN vs. LV Large Shoulder Plane

MikeG

>Well after alot of reading of reviews and getting everyone's input here, I've decided to go with the LN. This may not have been the consensus of the reviews but in the end my gut said LN. Mostly this was based on my experience with LN planes.

I should have the plane in another week or so. They are on backorder :( . I'll post a follow up if anyone is interested.

I appreciate everyone's input.

Mike

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#15

Get'm All

Todd Stock

>A fine choice, but let's face it - the game here is more tools, right? Tell the wife that you really need that very reasonably priced LV medium shoulder plane to trim the shoulder on the OTHER side of the tenon.

Follow up with the 1/2 LN small shoulder and the LV bullnose, and there you are - with a good start filling out the roster.

Todd (who has big hands and finds the LN to be very comfy for shoulders and a whole host of other jobs).

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#16

Re: Get'm All

Mike Gabbay

>Great advice! Although I already have the LN 60 1/2 and LN 4 1/2 and absolutely love both of them. I do have my eye on the LA Jack! :)

These things are very addictive.

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#17

Re: Get'm All

Todd Stock

>Have a LN jack from Tom's first run - excellent tool, which should be credited with inspiring a host of other LA efforts. That said, if you get a chance to try the LV LA Jack, it's a very nice tool.

Enjoy!

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