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Mitre Boxes and saws

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Mitre Boxes and saws

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>I have been looking to purchase a vintage mitre box for some time but they are rare in this Tool Hell. One possibility is a Stanley 150 on offer (without appropriate backsaw - but at least I own that already). A search of the Archives (here and on the OldTools site) does not yield any information, which may mean that it is too poor to consider discussible.

What is the view on this mitre box? Should I be looking for something specific and, if so, where do I can I see examples and reviews? There is no website (that I know of) that offers information about mitre boxes. It would be really helpful to rank these in order of desirability, with comments about their pros and cons.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>Derek the only info I know of that may help is at Stan Faullins site.

www.tooltrip.com/tooltrip8/index.htm

Look there and see if the manual pages may help any.JR

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Jack Guzman from Maine

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Jack Guzman from Maine

>I guess this is a night for miter boxes. This isn't the 150 but it should give you a place to start.---Jack


http://www.tooltrip.com/tooltrip8/stanley/stan-mbox/stan-mbox.htm

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Bob Hutchins in Central Texas

>Howdy Derek (which passes for 'G'Day Mate' in these parts)!

You might want to search eBay for miter boxes for a few days, too. Millers Falls used to make some good ones. When I was much younger (before CMS's were available), I used to trim new houses as an evening job with my BIL and brother, and we used a Millers Falls saw and box. As long as the saw was kept sharp, it did all we asked of it.

They come up right often on the bay and you should be able to get an idea of their variety and prices. 'Course, shippin' one to Oz might put you off, too.

HTH

BobH

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>The #358 is the one you want. It has a five inch capacity cut, good guides, probably the best miter box on the Stanley tools line. I was forunate to get mine with the original saw with a good Sweetheart etch for $20. The #2358 is pretty much the same but a newer version. The #346 is pretty much the same as the #358 but with a 4" cut capacity, and the #2244 is the newer version of that box. I am not familiar with the Millers Falls, but they would also have some good boxes.

The #150 looks like it would work okay, but has a lot of slop in the guide, and only the one guide in the front instead of guides front and back; I haven't actually used mine yet, but these are observations I made from looking at it.

Another option would be to make a simple miter box; if you layout and cut the angles accurately it would work well. I still need to make a good shooting board to use with my miter boxes.

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Roger Bell

>I agree with Moses. If you are going to the trouble of buying off the internet and then shipping to Perth, go with the higher quality, larger capacity and heavier unit. Buy once, pay once, cry once and only once.

I have both the Stanley 358 and the 460. Either of these is far superior in design features and in construction to the lower end vintage Stanley models. The Miller Falls Langdon is also good. I also have a modern Nobex (that my wife uses for pic. framing on very light sticks). But it is not no Stanley or Langdon, nor is it even close. I consider it far too light for "real work". I also took off the plastic handle and replaced with a "real" saw handle.

For fine work, plan on shooting your cuts prior to gluing. These are carpenter's tools. For pic framing, we use the Lion Miter trimmer to clean up.

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kenc

>I own a 246 and a 2358. These represent both of Stanleys high quality designs. You can't go wrong with either type IMO. I don't see the point of some of the very small boxes with a short backsaw - you'd be using about 2" of blae on some of them! Both of my boxes are of later manufacture and slightly cheapened by lower quality legs and a silkscreened aluminum 'display' on the quadrant rather than cast in. The earlier boxes are nicer, but much more expensive and don't wirk any better.

Ken

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Michael R

>I mentioned a post below that I have a couple of miter boxes that I need to sell. Of course, the shipping from one Oz (Kansas) to the other might be prohibitive.

I don't know what model the Stanley is. The label just says Stanley Rule & Level Plant, New Britain, CT, and has a serial number of 2246. It was purchased new in 1952 and has adjustable guides, and comes with the Stanley branded Disston saw that it was sold with. I bought it from the original owner when he retired.

One curious thing is that the detents on the table are marked with the numbers of sides on the figure that the miter would cut - 4, 5, 6, 8, etc

The other one is later, made by Hempe manufacturing. It is less robust, although the guides are adjustable. There's no saw with it although I have an old Craftsman saw that might work with it.

If you get really desparate, Email me & I'll snap a couple of pix. I had planned to advertise them for sale in a few weeks, but I can dig them out now if there is interest.

Michael R

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>Isn't that the stout cast iron one they sold? the one I had looked like it would mak a prety good user but it dosent have much room for depth. I'll have to take a picture of one I bought a while back and post it I love the miter box but will probably never use it. It came fitted with a Disston #12 Kinda a strange saw for a miter box but after you see it you will know why that saw was used.

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Here is one I bought for a buck.

Ernie Miller

>I just love this box and had to have but the bidding wasn't strong? I think the peg that holds it in place is what sold me on it. It came with a #12 hand saw that had been customized into a poen handled saw. suprisingly it cuts almost perfect 45's


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differant angle

Ernie Miller

>this takes alot of room in the shop but I like it.


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That's a really cool mitre board, Ernie.

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

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