stanley 45 type study?

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Tim Caley - North Little Rock

>Here you go Ernie....


http://www.tooltrip.com/tooltrip8/stanley/comb-planes/45types/45types.htm

Re: stanley 45 type study?

David Miller from Iowa

>If decent, the knob and blade holder screw are maybe just worth $15. Bodies without the parts don't go for much.

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Ernie Miller

>Thanks itis either type 1,2 or 3 with out the fence I have mo way of telling with out the fence. I'll think on it for a few days.

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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I don't think it makes any difference in this particular case. The only difference between type 1 and type 2 was changes in the casting of the fence. The only additional differences between type 2 and type 3 were also to the lost fence and to lost attachments.

Now, as I see it, this puts you on the horns of a moral dilemma. If this body were origially outfitted with a type 2 or type 3 fence and accessories, and you replaced the fence with a type 1 fence, so that you would not have to pay extra for the type 3 accessories that were not included in the type 1 plane, would you be able to sleep at night, knowing that someone on Stanley's assembly line had kept this particular casting in reserve, waiting for bigger and better things for it? Would you be able to tell a potential buyer, with a straight face and a clear conscience, that your frankenplane was really worth more because it did not come equipped with the additional bells and whistles?

I still lose sleep at night, knowing that I searched out, found and paid for a type 1 slitting cutter for my type 1, while fearing that perhaps that cutter had not even been packed with its original plane by the same skilled artisan, or maybe not even on the same shift, as mine.

If that were not sufficient cause for worry, you must next consider whether you should debase your plane by using it with later cutters with notches for the depth adjuster. Again, I found invioate cutters for mine. It is now complete, and a type 1 to boot, and I don't need no steenking cutter boxes or 1001 different cutter shapes, or even a wooden box to make it so.

I understand collectors who collect and study to write type studies, but I don't understand those who would condemn Todd for parting out mostly complete planes, to fulfill several collectors' fantasies.

OTOH, I question the wisdom of breaking up a toolbox full of tools, right there at the auction, without first taking the complete tool box home, cataloging and studying its contents, and publishing or otherwise preserving the catalog. We question why we and others on WC buy the tools we buy, for good reason. I think it would also be important to know what tools our predecesors acquired over their careers, which ones they used, which ones just sat there in the bottoms of their toolchests, which ones they bought new, which ones they bought used, which ones worked fine right out of the box, which ones they needed to modify, and which useless bits and pieces they lost.

After you've got the catalog and analysis of the toolset, including an estimate of the age of each tool, its completeness, whether it was substantially modified, and how well it worked, it would be OK to break up the contents of the tool box. No sense trying to keep all of them intact, just to make the research easier for some PhD candidate anthropologist who hasn't yet even asked the pertinent questions yet.

moral dilemma? conscience?

Ernie Miller Topeka

>Do you even know who you are talking to? I'm not that kind of person. I'm still trying to figure out if I should buy this poor plane and try and turn a proffit on it. it looks like the posabilities of that is kinda slim. but there are some other goodies I will pick up later this week

Re: moral dilemma? conscience?

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Of course I know who I'm addressing, Ernie. The whole message was a tongue-in-cheek rant, commenting on the uncertainties involved in typing planes, and the differences they makes in the valuation of the plane to different people. I probably should have put the part about tool boxes in the other thread, but I figured putting it here would better contrast the differences.

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>Has any one ever removed the wood from a tote? thinking there could be some $ in that as no one ever list them and they do get damaged? I think they are pined on so it would be tricky.