Garage sale items

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Mike G.

>Where's the tool chest..did all these tools come with it...how much did you have to pay for it...these are all pertinent questions galoots everywhere wanna know. Looks like a nice haul.

Mike G.

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Dean Lapinel

>Additional photo of star tool company morise gauge with a cam locking mechanism rather than turn screw. Preety neat tool!

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Dean Lapinel

>Hi Mike,

The tool chest is in the next post. I bought it from a nice fellow that bought it from the carpenter's family. All the tools are marked with the carpenters name (marking tool in chest). I paid a lot for this stuff - $550 but the variety is fun. The stanley 4 1/2 and bedrock 607C are pretty nice looking as well. The wood planes are in excellent condition, panel gauge is rosewood stanley, bevel gauge-sarget. Firmer chisels are great..bunch of leather tools as well that aren't pictured. The stanley 5, and 78 are OK.Rosewood square is really nice looking.

Kind of fun having a set from one particular woodworker.

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Dean Lapinel

>Tool chest. Pull out cabinet drawers are in the other photo. Dovetailed but rough shape with metal on top.

That's a pretty set of tools

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>nice that it stayed intact and went to someone who'll appreciate it.

cam lock guage

Jack Guzman from Maine

>Frank Klausz had one like that featured at his demo at the WoodWorks show in Springfield,Ma.I think it was his own design.---Jack

Load of junk

Adam Cherubini

>Dean,

Planes look okay, too bad about that other stuff. That box looks pretty nasty as well. You might want to consider the possibility of catching hepatitus from stuff like that. Those old timers also smeared liquid mercury on their chisels. So you need to clean those up with platinamonium (which is what it sounds like- a mixture of elemental platinum and amonium nitrate- You can purchase it in some States from furniture stripping supply houses. Its expensive, but that's not the worst of it- Its only available in 55 gallon drums.)

But look on the bright side, you got some nice, albeit run of the mill planes and a lesson learned which is worth 5 c-notes in my book.

My advice is to put on some protective clothing and drag that crap out to the curb on trash day. What's that, Thursday out there where you live? And what was your house number again? I wanted to send you a Easter card and I seem to have misplaced my address book.

Your friend,

Mike

Re: Load of junk

Dean Lapinel

>:)

Actually, despite the bunch of high quality files, pristine bits, Cooks patent and stanley adjustable levels, that Fulton miter saw..stanleys, 4 1/2,5,6,607,78, ..and other neat stuff I do surprisingly have buyers remorse.

Nothing I can do now though. live and learn!

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Ernie Miller

>no need for buyers remorse unless you were thinking of tripleing you money selling it. most of them chesd had metal tops put on them it seems. alot of people use them chests for coffee tables once they are cleaned up. so you could get 75-100 for it from the right person as they are good for storing pictures and albums. you know what the tools are worth.

Buyers remorse (long)

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>Dean (and all)

There are at two types of Buyers Remorse that come immediately to mind.

The first type is the obvious one - the guilt that goes with spending more than you feel you should have on yourself (this is usually experienced more commonly by married man/women, more so if they have children, etc. You know what I am refering to).

But it is the second type of Buyers Remorse that I more often hear on the forums, and one that many of those who live outside the States will likely share my experience of (hey, I am aware that there are many inside the States too who will identify with these comments). And this is when you feel that you have spent too much money on the tools than they are worth in the market place, that is, overpaid. Two comments about this:

Firstly, while this is probably not really so, the USA seems like a huge supermarket for many of us who live in Tool Hell. The prices paid and the tool variety available are a fraction of what we pay and from which we have to choose. Now this is not a whinge - not at all - just a way of helping you see that I would have jumped at your opportunity since it is rare that anything like that ever comes (or will come) my way.

Then there is the obsession with not paying too much, that is, of getting a bargain. It is not just that the prices that are bandied about are really low to me (no, I'm not wealthy - just that prices in Australia can be 2 - 3 times those in the States, plus there is the huge expense of shipping costs when we use eBay, which is the only way many of us can acquire tools). Prices for hand tools really seems to be on the rise. That is my perception since I watch eBay a lot. The downside of forums such as Wood Central is that we increase the popularity of our tools, and thereby the competition to purchase them. I think that I am very fortunate that I purchased the bulk of the tools I need and desire some years ago (of course this does not stop me wanting more! :)) since I could not afford to buy them now the way their market value has increased. This is also the long way around to say that it does not make sense to quibble over a few dollars in purchase price - their value will continue to increase, and eventually it will be irrelevant whether you originally paid in the middle- or the higher end of the range. So just enjoy the fact that you now have a tool(s) that you managed to obtain, and at a price that you could afford. This is not a time for guilt but a time for celebration!

Enjoy.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Dean Lapinel

>Derek,

That was a well stated and appropriate post. Thanks for the reality check.

The fact is that I do enjoy the tools and will use many of them. The fact that I paid on the high side shouldn't matter and thanks for reminding me.

Best to you,

Dean

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Mike G.

>I recall getting two tool chests, one a cabinet makers chest and the other a patternmaker's chest for $500.00 for the both of them. and full of tools, too. :)

I'm looking at a machinists chest I just saw today but don't know if I want to pull the trigger or not. I know I could get some good tools out of it and still make my money back, but LOML just spent my inheritance on dishes and sewing stuff at the antique auction tonight...well...last night.

Mike G.

Nice haul!

Mark Harrison -- in Sydney, Australia

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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I think you are missing an important part of the equation when you calculated their worth. Consider the amount of your time it cost you to acquire the whole box full, vs. the amount of time it would have taken you to hunt them down one at a time at bargain prices. Further, consider the value to you of finding a complete set of tools providing the history of one craftsman. Consider the impossibility of tracking down the complete contents of such a tool box, after it had been broken up and scattered to the four winds. And then factor in what you think your time is worth, and how you would prefer spending that time.

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Todd Hughes

>I don't know much about marking gages but this looks like a very desirable gage.I have sold some bevel gages made by the Star co. and they did VERY well and would imagine the marking gages are the same.

$550 does seem to be a high price for the chest and contents but if you are happy....I always try to pick the best stuff out of the tool chests i come across and just buy them and think you can come out better that way and don't get stuck with a bunch of Etc......Todd

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Dean Lapinel

>If anyone knows someone near Boise, Idaho that is interested in this chest/tools (including that fulton saw that came with it) i would sell this for the same price I paid. I wouldn't keep any tools and would have proof of price paid.

Thanks

OK, you definitely suck.

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>Nice haul!

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Mike G.

>Todd Hughs said;

"$550 does seem to be a high price for the chest and contents but if you are happy....I always try to pick the best stuff out of the tool chests i come across and just buy them and think you can come out better that way and don't get stuck with a bunch of Etc......Todd "

Now Todd, sometimes in the junk are treasures. :) If I'd thrown away some of the "junk" in the two chests I bought, I wouldn't have found the papers and awards for the previous owner. Granted, there was some junk, but I don't think I threw very much out. I figured if this old patternmaker had kept it in his chest, there must be some kind of use for it. I think I even saved the aspirin tin although I did throw the few aspirin away.

Mike G.

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Ernie Miller

>Todd that is the differance between a user and a resaler you go for the cherry pick and he goes for it all hopeing that it will make him a better woodworker. or it could be inexperance. You see lots of tools in your travils and this is his first big score. It's nice to see am mans chest in one place.

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Dean Lapinel

>Ernie,

I am a solid Woodworker and a lousy dealer. I bought the tools because they belonged to one man and I thought I could keep part of him alive by continuing to use them. I don't like the idea of picking and selling but I have no problem with others doing that.

My worst problem with this purchase isn't the money spent but more that I bought the tools because they are really nice to look at and to tinker with (and because they belonged to one person). Desire consumed logic because I already have nice tools and much of this "collection" is not user type tools for me.

I hope that I can sell the collection intact or just hold onto the collection for someone in the future.

Don't know

Todd Hughes

>I would think a tool "User" would tend to be even more selective then a tool "seller' as to what they buy and not less so. In this example as a user did the buyer really need that large wooden level, reid screw driver, rubber mallet, etc. etc. etc.? As a seller most tools can be sold ,[might be hard with that mallet!] but as a user I don't think there will be a call to use all tools.....I think in this example it is more of a case of a collector who wanted to get a complete chest vs a tool seller or user who wanted the tools to sell or use. Nothing wrong with that. I have a few complete tool chests including a beautiful pattern makers one with all his tools but I don't have alot of room and have to much stuff anyway so now unless something really special I just try to get the best tools out of them either to sell or use,[for my collection]. When i buy at auction I often toss out over half of the stuff that comes in the box lots right there at the auction as i don't want to carry it home. I always get funny looks when i might pay a little bit of green for a box and put in my pocket what I want and then walk over and dump the rest it in the trash can.....Todd

Re: cam lock guage

paul womack

>I think it was his own design.---Jack

It may have been his own make, but the design is way old.

IIRC they're also called archimedean gauges. Anyone got Salaman to hand?

BugBear

Sooo?

Ernie Miller Topeka

>looking closer is that a plane float or a chisel in the top center with the crank neck?

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Dean Lapinel

>It's a float.