Phoenix?

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Russ Allen- Chicago

>Sir William,

I haven't been there yet but I hear the blacksmith shop at the Pioneer Living History Village is something to see. There web site also lists a carpenter's shop.

I've been to St. James three or four times. They aren't open on Mondays IIRC even though the web site says they are.

Russ


http://www.pioneer-arizona.com/

Re: Phoenix?

Andy Halterman: Shorts again today

>Desert Museum is great. I was less than impressed with Frank's house in Scottsdale. I did the cheap tour so maybe I should have gone for the better one. Probably just me so don't take my word for it. Depending on how much time you have, Sedona is very pleasing to the eye. US89 up Oak Creek canyon is quite a scenic drive. You could end the day by drivin up through Jerome and on to dinner in Prescott. A couple nice restaurants in the old downtown area. That would be a full day for sure from PHX.

Looking forward to my trip there in March. Gonna do yet another big walk in some famous canyon up north of Flagstaff. :-)

Andy Halterman

Looking forward to mtn. bikin' amongst the saguaros in Hendersonville, NC

Tool Heaven

Todd Hughes

>I have a friend that used to live in the south west,[forget if Phonix or where] but he tells me that it is a tool heaven of the first order out there. He came back with a tool collection to prove it too! His thinking was that old guys go out there to retire, die off and the widows sell the stuff at the flea markets or yard sales.Says it is much better then around here and prices for tools are cheaper there too because less people want them.....Todd

If you get a chace...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>The air museum in Tucson is great, if you�re into that kind of a thing. Also a trip up to Sedona is a fun trip too.

I can't recommend living out the Eagle's song and going to Winslow to stand on the corner...

Re: Phoenix?

Bill Ward

>If you are a FL Wright fan, visit Taliesin. In general, we enjoyed the tour, but the place is pretty run down. I believe they are planning major renovation, soon.

We spent a week in Sedona last summer and absolutely loved it. The Oak Creek Canyon road is something else. We also did the Mesa Canyon Railroad. Great if you like choo-choo rides.

I did some tool hunting in the antique stores in Cottonwood. Saw a few goodies, but didn't buy. You'll go through Cottonwood (just west of Sedona) if you go to Clarkdale for the train ride or to Jerome.

Re: If you get a chace...

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I've been through Winslow, needing some gasoline for a very hungry car, and I was not impressed, either. I should explain that when I was there I was totally overwhelmed with the grandeur of the desert, having just experienced my first desert thunderstorm in the Petrified Forest. I didn't really want to come back down to that sort of a place.

Re: Phoenix?

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Thanks for the tips, Andy. I haven't driven on 89, so I'll be sure to plan an excursion up that way.

They do need to do something about erosion control up north of Flagstaff :^) Too many OWW (or soon to be) in big campers kind of got in the way of the wilderness experience when I last traveled that way, and I surely don't have time to get around to the Kaibab plateau this trip.

Hope you enjoy your walk down, and back out again. My grandmother used to tell an apocryphal tale that she found the donkeys too expensive, and thus became the first women of European descent (mostly) to make the descent on foot, and then back out again. I know that there are joggers that do it all the time, nowadays, but I think they miss a lot.

Re: Tool Heaven

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>That is really encouraging news, Todd. Oh! look out, OWW!

North rim

Andy Halterman: Shorts again today

>N. Rim is light years better than the south. So much less traffic up that way. This trip is off the S. rim about 30 miles west of the village down a nasty dirt/gravel/rocks road that sees little traffic. My third time in from this area. It's a shame you couldn't be there for the desert in bloom. I was much impressed with all the cacti and other things (ocotillos in particular) that put on such a display of color. Nice, but I'd miss the mtn. laurels, catawba rhodos (pink ones) and all the wild azaleas we have here. I guess the ericaceae family really does it for this boy. :-)

Enjoy your visit.

By the way, I got to experience a desert thunderstorm and it's eventual aftermath one time. Not a fun way to be awakened in one's tent.

Andy Halterman

Ready for another desert adventure in Hendersonville, NC�

Another vote for Sedona.

Mark Harrison -- in Sydney, Australia

>Sensational scenery.

The south rim of the Grand Canyon is busy-ish but I didn't think that it was that bad. Mind you that was ten years ago.

Whatever, if you haven't seen the canyon before it will be eye-popping. The only other experience I can compare with it is the Himalayas (I went to the Indian Himalayas in Kashmir before the problems started). Different, I know, but equally breath-taking.

If I had the time I would definitely explore further (Monument Valley etc) in Arizona. I'm not that thrilled about Phoenix itself but I didn't see that much of it. I was there working so there wasn't a lot of free time.

Re: Phoenix?

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Thanks, Bill. I surely enjoy mountain scenery and driving winding roads. LOML, however doesn't like riding with me, but that's OK. Too bad I'll have a rental car, and not my old MR-2. She's in charge of a conference that week, so I'll get lots of time off alone, during the week, to explore. I can't spend the whole week hunting through OWW junk, now can I?

Thunderstorms...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>They have some of the best out there. When I was in college there we use to load up a cooler full of beer get some "wooded" shays (sp) lounges and head out into the desert to watch/photograph them.

The Heard Museum

Hank Knight in SC

>William, if you have any interest in Native American culture, be sure to visit the Heard Musenm in downtown Phoenix. It has a wonderful collection. I go there every time I get to Phoenix - I never tire of it. I also second the vote for Taliesin West. Take a tour - you'll get a lot more out of it. It's a fascinating place. Pick up a pair of Lucchese boots in Scottsdale. They're the best!

Re: The Heard Museum

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Thanks, Hank. I'll be sure to visit the Heard Museum. I have found it on my map. While most of my ancestors are Western European, I have some native American blood as well, and have a more than passing interest in things historical.

Thanks, everyone! Now, can anyone recommend an internet caf� near Metrocenter Mall in that supports MacOS? I can't miss the inaugural Schwarz/Cherubini chat.

Re: The Heard Museum

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>If you have an airport enabled laptop, most any yuppie coffee house should do.

Pam

What is an Airport Enabled Laptop?

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

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Re: What is an Airport Enabled Laptop?

Todd Stock

>A laptop with a wireless capability (802.11x) - either an add-on for card slot, USB, etc., or part of computer.