my first plane

congrats

David Miller from Iowa

>This is how it starts. Better start planning that 30'x50' workshop now!

another one bites the dust!

Ernie Miller Topeka

>I think you might want to get a spoke shave next if you are making spoons that would work nice for sculpting the handles. I'm not trying to talk you out of a block plane or any thing just think that would work better. Tell you what send me an e-mail with your address I think I have an extra laying around I'll drop it in the mail. I owe som many people around here somthing so I will pay them with this gift to you.

A Gouge

Greg B�tit, Vergennes, VT

>Get a #8 or #10 gouge, around 18-20mm wide. That'll make the Dremel look like its sitting on the wood humming a monotone tune, and making dust.

Greg

No, no, no

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>One of the advantages of hand tools is that you can work in a smaller shop. Even if you get into green woodworking and build a shaving horse (see earlier threads on this), you could probably happily run a pure hand tool shop out of a one-car garage, something that would be darn hard with power tools.

If you ever go to a maritime museums with wooden ships, track down the carpenter's shop, and picture the captain breathing heavily down your neck as you try to shape some wooden piece needed to keep the ship from sinking, or to repair the rudder that broke when the captain navigated onto that reef. Most of them that I've seen barely have room for the carpenter, much less a nervous captain.

thanks !

ned86xj

>Ernie,

just dropped you a note to your email address.

Thanks for the extremely generous offer. Isn't this community wonderful?

I will be sure and pass along the favor when and wherever I can.

how did that get there

Ned Bulken

>Ernie,

Whoops, looks like the home computer and the work computer have different profiles saved. Same person, thanks again!

slippery slope

Ned Bulken

>David,

oh trust me if I had the space and the money I'd be having a barnraising 24'x48' at least with a second story for an office and everything. Of course that would be just about the size of my current house... so I don't think it will be happening anytime soon.

Bill,

one of my ancestors was Commodore Thomas Truxton, first Commodore of the US Navy. I've been on his ship, which is the USF Constellation, same class as Old Ironsides, keel laid before the Constitution, but was rebuilt between WWI and WWII adding some length, so the Constitution gets all the press. The Constellation was still a floating museum in Baltimore harbor the last I knew. You're correct the ship's carpenter had a rough life, but got the job done.

Greg, thanks I sure will look into those gouges, The noisy spinny thing is 'fun' and was what I had at hand. I sure do prefer the new plane instead.

On day Ned you'll understand

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>that Ernie, while under the pretensis of being a nice guy offered you a spokeshave for no $$$, is actually in fact doing this for his (and our) amusement. Giving a tool to a new galoot (you)is considered the highest form of giving you a SHOVE down the Slippery Slope. Soon you'll be lusting after more and more tools and the accessories for their feed and care, such as sharpening stones and jigs, and we know that you'll post here asking for advise on what to buy. That's when Ernie gets "paid" for the spokeshave, as he will get much satisfaction from knowing that he was the one instumental in stoking the flames of your tool lust, and he'll take much pride in all the back slaps that he'll get from the rest of us for a job well done.

Someday Neddy ol' sport, you'll understand,but by than it be too late as there is no getting off of the Slippery Slope!

Welcome to Ellis Island.

Todd O.

Ernie, your as bad as a...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Drug Dealer. Come on...try it...you'll like it...the first one free.

Look out Ned, I see a big slope ahead!

here we go!

Ned Bulken

>Todd, Scott,

thanks for a good laugh, and loads of encouragement.

Is it a bad sign that I now want to 'finish' my bench, which I built without a vice or dog holes, by retrofitting with same?

Re: Ernie, your as bad as a...

Wendell @ Murphy, TX

>I can just see the note with the free sample:

"Enjoy the free shave. By the way here's my Ebay seller ID, tool_pushing_ernie*, in case you NEED anymore product."

By the way, what do I need to whine about to get on the Ernie's free sample?

Wendell (who's already way down the slope and doesn't need a push)

* This is not Ernie's real Ebay ID as far as I know :)

Re: slippery slope

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Be careful. Be very, very careful. We just might recommend seve or eight or a couple dozen different tools that might just make your task easier, and then debate their relative merits and demerits until the cows come home. You'll have no recourse but to try all of them and provide us with a review. And if that weren't enough, we might introduce you to this guy we know in Brooklyn, who is pushing French rasps, in almost more shapes and sizes than Pfeil has carving gouges. Run away, while you still have a chance.

planes, galoots and that fellow named Stanley

Ned Bulken

>fear not,

There is this little thing called a budget, and that alone will keep me reigned in.

what is this thing about 'really frightening pointy-ness' and honing Irons? Is that anything like pumping iron? Also, what is this with 'Galootitis' should I be concerned? ;)

Dare I mention that a year or so ago I picked up a pair of handsaws at $5 each, one nice crosscut and one handsome rip saw? And for another $5 I got my vice which I need to install in my bench one of these days?

How about my wish list at woodcraft, lee valley and the 'bug' I put in my father's ear? He frequents auctions and estate sales down in Virginia, told him to start looking for planes by that fellow Stanley with all them numbers on them, plus planes called Jim or John or something like that. Or that 'seat' or 'pew' plane?

I'm sure I'll be hearing about the 747, the wright planes, and getting my FAA certification for using planes and all that someday as well. wright?

LOL thanks for the warm welcome to Galoot-ville. think I'll fit in?

Indubitably so ;-)

Dan Donaldson

>Not sure what that means, but I read it in a book once, and was looking for a chance to use it in conversation ;-)

Sounds like you are just as crazy as the rest of us so you should feel right at home. Welcome to WC;-)

Re: Indubitably so ;-)

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Unquestionable, got to chat up some crispy critters if you want a good excuse to use indubitably.

Pam

That reminds me Ned, Pam

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>is a big fan of Japanese tools, which I have no real interest in, but again, they are worth taking a look at none-the-less I think.

Than of coarse we have some custon planes/tool makes running amok here on the Island that might be able to fabricate you a special tool. Steve Knight and Dave Anderson spring right to mind.

Budget he says HA! What a Greenhorn eh gang? Budget he said all innocent like! Yeah,yeah right out loud, and in public he said budget! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! HA! HA! HA!

Todd O.

Re: Ernie, your as bad as a...

Ernie Miller Topeka

>Thanks for the heads up I added it to the packaging. I hope he in into vintage designer purses and fine dishes as he will see alot of that stuff under my name also. I have a porcelin figurine that is to die for up this week. I should be able to buy a couple LV's with the proffet on it.

Re: That reminds me Ned, Pam

Ernie Miller Topeka

>Budget!! he said well Todd O you know what I did with my tool budget last week. I would probably be ran from the board if every one knew it went for non tools.

Ayah, budget I said

Ned Bulken

>I know it ought to be a four letter word, but I share a shop with my partner, and we have overhead to worry about. Of course I also get the benefits of owning a business, so tools and a budget actually make sense.

I must say, I'm glad I could bring such joy to this side of WC. I've been around, just haven't posted much, I even have a shop shot or two. Thankf for the Welcome tho.

Ernie,

we won't say nuttin' about spending your tool budget elsewhere.

Re: Indubitably so ;-)

Ned Bulken

>New moniker, but I've been around awhile. Thanks though, gotta have fun or why bother doing anything??