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Who Hoo, I did it! *LINK*

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Who Hoo, I did it! *LINK*

Rob in Kansas

>I know this should be on the other side, but this is where I normaly hang out and also the normites consider this more of a neander type thing.

After three less than stellar attemps I finally was able to get enough hints and hands to sucessfully pour the babbitt bearings on my circa 1907 neander buddy!

I caught so much guff from the people in the wood working club about pouring babbitt. They thought I should just drill things out and put ball bearings in. Of course they are the same ones that can't get a hand plane to work so they go at their wood with a belt sander! Personaly I like the "provenance" of my old iron.

Now I just need some property next to a nice mountain stream to power a line drive! Man wouldn't that be nice!

If anybodys interested I put a link to pics. And Ernie...IT'S RED NOT PINK!!! ;~)


My 26" Cresent

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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I don't know about those guys...If they can't figure out how to do something, they just throw more electrons, or more jigs and fixtures, or just more money at it. That's OK, if it's the best way to get the job done with the resources as their disposal, but when they belittle those who can do it for less, instead of accepting a freely offered lesson from them, they deserve [fill in the blank] :^)

That's a beautiful neanderbuddy, in the Shaker tradition, no less :^) But there is one small point that concerns me. Where did you put the guarding? Hopefully, you're still working on its restoration.

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Rob in Kansas

>Like the energizer bunny this project keeps going & going! It's taking much longer than I originally expected.

As for the guards I have a couple thoughts in mind. One is to put guards on that are contemporary to the saw. There is a guy that has restored a 1879 carriage makers shop and wood working equipment from that era. The average age of his tools are like 1888! Anyway what he suggested is a simple guard that will wrap around the wheel edge and verticle runs. This may be my first step prior to going on with the next one.

My original idea was to make complete guards out of either plywood or light MDF and do some marquetry based on this later model. (See link) The thing is I'll have to go at this from scratch as my machine was before they even added an area on the table casting to attach a fence, let alone guards.

Don't worry I'm old enough to have a healthy respect for any tool, powered or not!


guard design

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John K in Hastings, MN

>Schweeeeeet.

Got enough room? I'll eventually get my 36" West Side Iron Works rolling, but making a 2000 lb capacity mobile base is a little limiting now.

Ain't nothing wrong with babbitt, either.

John

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Rob in Kansas

>Well since I haven't settled in a permanant place I'm going to keep it upstairs at my dad's business. The main rule is his employees are not allowed to touch it. One got the guillotine cutter stuck so he stood on the handle and started jumping up & down trying to free it. Somebody that stupid has no right being around this!

The guy that restored the carrage makers shop has also saved two old walnut post & beam barns in that area fron the bulldozer & I would love to be able to convert one to a house/shop. But time will tell what happens.

The babbit wasn't hard to do, but I needed to learn a few things. I'd rather face the possibility of re-doing them in 15-20 years rather than having to junk the whole thing! While not an expert by any means I feel like I've over come a big hurdle! Now I'm a little closer to being able to harvest trees from the farm to use in heirloom projects (hopefully).

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Paul in NJ

>That is a real beauty Rob! Keep up the good work and keep us posted.

Paul

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Congrats!

Bill Ward

>Rob: Congrats on getting the babbitts poured for the Cresent. Looks like the restoration is coming along well since the Tornado Alley Galoots saw the machine back in September. You are going to have to show the Hand Tool Forum how the treadle system hooks up! I still think your dad needs to install a line shaft system to run the whole shop!

BTW, I saw a complete set of bearing scrapers in wooden case at an antique store. I think the store was in Pittsburg, KS. Or maybe AZ. Can't remember.

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>you touched them pictures cause in person it sure looks pink. So can I bring some wood over to resaw?

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Rob in Kansas

>You're color blind!

I'm going to try and do two pours a night to finish up Wednesday. Then I'll need to pull some wire to run the three phase power back where it needs to go and have someone blessed by the city hook things up. Finally I'll have to work on the guide bearings and order one new one. If I'm lucky I'll have everything in place next week.

You can bring your dry wood over to practice on! ;~) I think I'll see if the rest of that spalted sycamore is still there in good shape, there's a very red box elder on Pa's place, and I'm also thinking quartersawn hedge to make some plane blanks out of!

We need to clean out your shed and make a small kiln to put in there!

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#11

"guards removed for photo"

Peter Berglund in Denver

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dave jeske

>That is too cool!. Nice job. I like my "vintage" 1940's iron like my Walker Turner BS and Logan Lathe(.... and hand planes of course!) but yours is truly vintage. A couple years back I posted about a trip to New Hampshire (I live in Oregon)and was invited to see an old Grist mill that was still 'working' (it need restoration badly) and was running several wood lathes, drill press, etc. If It were for sale I might have made a rash decision on the spot! Enjoy your piece of history.

Dave

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>Let's just build a kiln beside it or at the edge of the parking lot at your dads place.

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#14

What else are you

Jim Bodin

>poring? I'm going to pour bearings for my trip hammer hopefully soon. Where did you get your babbit?

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Rob in Kansas

>Jim,

Each shaft has 2 bearings and I'm doing either the top or bottom half at a time. So eight total pours. I had a heck of a time finding babbitt. After checking all the plumbing stores and many machine shops I finally found an old machine shop that had some buried in the back. Now I think the best place to get it is McMaster Carr by mail order. I put a post on owwm.com with some of my experiences. Send me an email (remove the 9) if you have any questions. And keep your hand out from under that hammer, they go quick!

Ernie,

I did have plans to build a solar kiln next to dad's building, but that's another big round tuit! Besides if I had, the state would try and charge $1,000 property tax!

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Vundavaaah!

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>I think this is fantstic Rob! Resurrecting an old machine like this is A-OK in my book, and dosen't offend my Neanderthal Tendacies one little bit.

Learning a new (old?) skill and restoring an old timer, man that's just fantasic!

Todd O.

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>Being a buisness things might be differant but if you build it so it is not a perminant fixture it is not taxable. there is sq ft limitations also but you would be under that. I'll keep an eye out for some fiberglass pannells and some cotton woof 2X3's. It seems like a shame to have to haull it to my house that far from the saw maybe we should set the saw up here? you also might run the risk of boards dissapearing. I think I have a pack rat.

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Re: Nice Try

Rob in Kansas

>Both you & Roger already tried that. Besides, it won't fit in my Jeep!

Kansas is looking for all the money they can get to pay for your extra paycheck! Between my audit of KDOR and Dad's experience with KDOT I'm not sure they wouldn't change their mind mid-stream! :)

Seriously, I did know about the permanate structure thing. I've been waiting for a couple of those 12' pallets to come along. Maybe now that this is almost done I'll finally make that round tuit!

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#20

That's funny Ernie

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>I think I have a pack rat.

That's the best excuse for excessive accumulations of stuff that I've ever heard. Gotta remember that one.

"Ayah, think I got a pack rat, set a trap for it one time, and dang if that didn't disapper too."

Aye, but that's a good 'un surely.

Todd O.

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