Plane Collecting Minutiae *LINK*

Dave Heckel's book? *LINK*

Russ Allen- Chicago

>David,

I have the first edition of Dave Heckel's Sargent guide. It doesn't have a 1080 type study but it does list the years it was produced and notes some of the variations a type study would contain. It does have a type study of the cutter tradesmarks and one of the box types. The most interesting 1080 listed is the 1949-1953 version. It says it was made by Stanley!

Dave sells the book as well as his Stanley 45 book on ebay. I bought my copy at a mwtca national meet and got it autographed. (Dave is a past mwtca president).

I also have the Sargent catalog reprint. The 1080 is shown in the 1922 section. It was first produced in 1916 so it isn't in the 1894 or 1910 sections.

I have 4 different variations

I thought I was bad- at least mine all have different numbers! (1080, 1085, 45, 55)

Russ Allen

Chicago


Dave's book on the 'bay

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Mike L

>Hi David,

I have an in-the-box complete (including screwdriver but no instruction booklet -assuming one was provided) Craftsman version of that plane. Ping me if you have any specific features you'd like to compare/contrast.

Cheers,

Mike

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Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

>Mike, My Craftsman is also complete with the box but the model # is 3728 which was made by Stanley for Sears.

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Mike L

>Howdy Frank,

I'm not certain that my Craftsman is made by Sargent but it looks alot like the Sargent in the link David posted. Truth be told, I think it's pretty unattractive compared to the early model Stanley #45 I have; though I confess that I've not used either of them (I don't think the Craftsman has ever been used). Do you have any estimate for the vintage of your Craftsman-branded, Stanley-made combo plane? According to the seller, mine is supposed to be about WWII vintage but I'd guess it was much younger.

Cheers,

Mike

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Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

>Hi Mike. According to Dave Heckel's book, Craftsman offered the planes from 1950-1960 making them post WWII offerings. My box dates my plane as an early model, possibly made in 1950. Mine does not appear to have been used as there are no scratches or rub marks on the rosewood fence.

These are interesting tools and fun to collect/admire/use. I can see how Dave Heckel got hooked into pursuing them. ;>)

Cornfuzing lineage

Mike L

>Thanks Frank. That dating seems a bit more reasonable considering the combo plane was acquired in a lot purchase with some other Craftsman planes (presumably originally purchased by the same person) that appear to be newer (i.e. post WWII) vintages.

Re-reading Russ' post in this thread, Stanley made Sargent's #1080 planes from 1949-1953. If you have a Craftsman which looks to be about from 1950, then you have a Craftsman-branded Stanley-made Sargent combination plane. :-)

If I can trouble you to look in Mr. Heckel's Sargent guide one more time, can you help me with IDing a #8C-sized plane? Body is unmarked; VBM on the lever cap; Sargent (and maybe other stuff) on the iron; hardwood tote and high knob (maybe mahogany). I know VBM is Very Best Made but I remember reading those were only low knobbers. Does the Sargent guide shed any light on this feature? TIA.

Cheers,

Mike