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Darrell in Oakville

Walnut Windsor Chair *lots of pix*

Darrell in Oakville

>This is a true tale, fraught with strife, fear & loathing, and the mercilless physical properties of our ancient enemy, Wood.

This story first appeared in serial form on the Canadian Woodworking Forum. Here now, for your somewhat dubious entertainment, is the complete story bound in a single volume...

Jan 3 2005 All Steamed Up

I had a really exciting day today. Sat around this afternoon and watched water boil. Yee Haaa!

Actually, Kathy noticed that it was quite warm for January and I suddenly realized that I needed to bend some parts for a windsor chair. Yes, that walnut chair, parts of which have been hanging around the shop for um, a year I guess, or maybe more. I'm afraid to actually look up how long it's been, that's how long it's been!

Anyways, I scurried about this afternoon and hauled out the steam bending rig from the dim cobwebby recess of the garage where it lives. I set everything up, and decided that if I was gonna do one I might as well do two. Just in case I screw up, eh? So I quickly roughed out another arm and bow blank from some of that air dried walnut we picked up last year from Ken White's sawmill.

Whilst I was digging out the small workbench from behind the trailer I looked up and spotted another pair of bow blanks in the wood rack, these ones being an ash back and an oak arm. Better add them to the pot as well. I set up the bending form on the bench, and fired up the steamer. I loaded the six pieces into the box and sat back to read for half an hour. I was reading FWW On Bending Wood (of course).

I hollered for Kathy when the wood was cooked and we started the second most stressful woodworking procedure known to man (next to glue ups). Lots of cursing, bashing, yelling and flailing around. I managed to bust the ash back completely, and now I have TWO extra arms as I had a leftover from my previous chair project. The rest of the parts went much better, and I think I can actually rescue enough pieces for a couple of chairs.


Jan 3 2005 And totally bent outta shape

Here's the results of our efforts. The clamps are holding the splits down so they don't run out and bust the bows completely. Nuthin' a half a bottle of crazy glue won't fix, eh?

This here's what you get when you're inexperienced, and when you use dried instead of green wood, and when you use sawn instead of riven lumber. But seein' as that's all I had to work with, I used it.


Jan 4 2005 back in the saddle...

Today I saddled the seat blank for that walnut chair I'm making. Normally, I make the seats from basswood, and the rest of the parts from ash, beech, birch or maple. But this chair isn't going

to be painted, and the Design Consultant has decreed that it all has to be walnut.

Carving basswood is a treat. Very forgiving stuff. Walnut isn't *bad* but is sure ain't as easy as basswood. I never bothered buying an adze for roughing out chair seats. I just use a couple of big gouges. Works fine in basswood just pushing the chisels, but for the walnut I was driving them with a big oak mallet.

Saddling a seat usually takes me about 45 minutes, but the walnut took almost twice that long. Much of that time was spent fiddling around with the pommel trying to get the sweep just right.

Here's a picture I took after 45 minutes of effort with the mallet, chisel, scorp, travisher and compass plane. Not bad, but I think I went a bit too deep in the middle. I was aiming for 5/8 but got almost 7/8 deep. See? Those gouges work plenty fast enough!


Jan 5 2005 Without a leg to stand on

Tonight I started working on the undercarriage.

I got as far as boring and reaming the leg holes. Two of the holes are misplaced, one by 1/4 and the other by 1/2 inch. Danged spoon bits wander when you start them, and I haven't used'em in a while, so I keep misjudging where they are gonna go. Anyways, this screwed up my stretcher sizes unless I wanted to shift the legs a bit whilst reaming. I shifted the rake a bit on one of the back legs to bring the stretchers in line. this makes the chair look nasty from the side but it still looks OK from the front.

Almost didn't get anything done today. I had to change the drive belt on my lathe, and could not get the spindle off. I needed the machine up and running so I could size the tenons on my chair legs. So I made a quick run to LV after dinner and bought some link belt. Lathe runs smooth and quiet now! Oops, a bit of off topic chatter there...

So far so good. Here's a shot of the new chair and the model:


Jan 6 2005 Gimme a leg up will ya?

Tonight I finished the leg-up on my walnut windsor chair. This is one of those really tense moments in woodworking, when the glue meets the wood.

The stretchers are actually larger than they should be to fit between the legs. I was taught to add 1/4 inch to each stretcher to 'pre-load' the undercarriage. This means that the stretchers are holding the legs apart instead of together, so the chair shouldn't come apart even if the glue fails.

This also means that it's tricky to get everything together at the end because the legs won't easily fit into the holes once the stretchers are in place. So you HAMMER the legs in. With a big steel hammer. No deadblow or wooden mallets here. There were bits of wood flying off the ends of the legs as I bashed them down. No worries though, because the legs are a couple inches longer than necessary.

On this chair I went with a simpler leg turning, kind of a bamboo thing, rather than the fancier baluster legs. I get real frustrated trying to get those fancy legs to come out nice on the lathe, but the simple legs are a breeze.


Jan 7 Stumped Again

I went down to the shop after supper. The Kidz were watching (again) Harry Potter III (again) and I felt like doing something more constructive than TV...

I turned and fitted the arm stumps on my windsor chair. These are the last of the turned parts, the spindles being whittled from riven stock. I had turned a bamboo style set of stumps but I thought they were heartlessly plain, so I quickly (well, an hour for two small spindles isn't *quickly* but...) turned this new baluster style set. You can see why I don't make baluster legs anymore, eh?

Then I had to ream the holes in the seat to match the tapered tenons on the stumps. Tricky bit here is that you want the them in wind (ie in the same plane) and splayed outwards (107 degrees along the sightline) and the tips need to ne 21 1/2 inches apart. I finally got close enough to my targets to stop and say "done", but not until I had very nearly ran out of tenon!


Jan 8 yet another in a seemingly endless series of posts

Today I spent some time working on the upper portion of my chair. I had to glue on hand blocks for the arm, and taper the ends of the back bow. After lunch I cut out the hands andcleaned up the

arm. I bored the spindle holes in the seat and then some more dicey work, boring and reaming the holes in the arm and fitting the spindles.

I think I was pointing at the wrong sightline when I bored one of the spindle holes, as that spindle is wayyy out of line with the others. It looks OK in the pic, but that's because the silly thing is under a lot of stress, being forced into place. And I think the arm is too far back, which doesn't make sense given how good the stumps came out. Ah well, "it'll hunt" as John would say.

Several times I found myself reading my references and looking at the pix I took during my chairmaking class, at a loss for the next step. So far so good, it's actually starting to look like a chair.

I was expecting to glue up this much tonight but I'm tired, and I don't want to screw it up. Tomorrow I will glue the spindles and arm. The I can start working on the back bow. Some of the holes in that part are really challenging.


Jan 9 2005 The sound of ultimate suffering

"The man in black makes it now..."

It was a brutal finish to what was a fun and challenging project. Tripped and fell flat on my face, right at the finish line.

Well, the glue-up for the arm and spindles went OK. My daughter Michelle was in the shop with me after lunch, handing me wedges and tools as I needed them. A reasonably sedate glue-up as these things go, no surprises, no crises.

After The Kidz were in bed I went back downstairs to see about installing the back bow. I dry fit the bow and balanced it, there's some leeway built into the parts so you can shift them back and forth a bit to get the best symmetry. Once I had decided where everything was supposed to go I started boring the holes in the bow. The middle 5 are not too difficult, but those last two on the outside are wicked. You have to bore a 3/8 inch hole in a bent, round, 7/8 inch thick piece, at a very oblique angle. I did that OK, a wee bit off centre, but acceptable.

Then I glubricated everything and started trying to get the bow onto all those spindles, and into the holes in the arm. After 5 minutes of wrestling (good thing the glue has a 15 minute open time, eh!) I finally got the bow on. But it isn't where I wanted it, symmetry-wise. So I started tapping it down to try and get the port side a bit lower. I spread the blows of the hammer like I'm suposed to (not all in one place).

I got halfway to where I wanted the bow when I heard a most discouraging sound. One of the spindles broke just above the arm...

C R A C K !!!!!!

And I made an appropriate amount of noise, giving vent to my horror, frustration, indignation, fear and loathing. OK, now what? Leave it. Leave it? Yes, get on with the rest of the job. So I proceeded to wedge and trim all the joints. That part went off without a hitch.

Then I slathered glue into the broken part and started jamming clamps on it. I got it to close up enough I think. It won't have that nice smooth curve to it but it will be there. Good enough for now I guess. We shall see once the clamps come off.


Jan 9 2005 Looks good from a distance, eh?

I'll still have to trim, wedge and clean up that last spindle end, but as it stands (or sits) now the chair is done.


Jan 10 Pull up a chair and set a spell...

Well, the chair is finally in the finishing stage. I did some quick rehab on the busted spindle, and while it has a sharp kink in it instead of a sensual curve, it doesn't detract from the comfort of the chair, just the looks.

Tonight I did a last round of scraping and sanding to get rid of the remaining bits of glue, pencil marks and other blemishes. Then I slapped a coat of tung oil on the chair. Wow, that stuff really lights up the walnut.

A couple more coats of oil, some drying time, some paste wax, and this one will be sitting in the living room.


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Darrell

Oakville ON

Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User

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Jack Guzman from Maine

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Jack Guzman from Maine

>Darrell, You really make that look doable.I've been toying with the idea of chairmaking.Maybe someday after this crib I'm workin on is done...The finished product sure looks good.---Jack

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Jim Shaver - Oakville, Ontario

>Hi Darrell,

This chair looks amazing, In walnut no less. I have enjoyed the process over on CWW of seeing this all come together. Again, a great job on a wonderful chair!

take care,

Jim

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Steven McKinley from Calgary

>Nice picture essay Darrell! Just curious, where did you learn to make Windsor chairs?

Steven.

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Wonderful essay and

Bruce, a MN Galoot

>another example why this WW site is the best. Great job, Darrell, and nice chairs. Thanks for the tutorial.

Bruce

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Darrell in Oakville

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Darrell in Oakville

>Hi Steve,

I took the sackback class with John Robinson, up in Kettleby (north of Toronto). That was in May 2001. Windsor chairs are not like anything else I've made. Close counts. Hey, anything even romtely like close counts. I dunno what else you can make where parts can be too big to fit together, mortices at wrong angles, mismatched and mishapen parts all go together to create something that's comfortable, strong, and looks good. Crazy stuff. I like it ;^)

Darrell

Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User

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Tom Scott (Midlothian, TX)

>Great job on the chair, Darrell. it looks fantastic.

Windsor chairs are on my list (quite a ways down the list) of things to do. They look very intimidating, but your tutorial definitely makes it seem possible.

Thanks,

Tom

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Steve Kubien

Beautious-Maximus

Steve Kubien

>Great work Darrell! That thing is a beauty. Just what do the neighbours say? One weekend it's a forge on the driveway. Next, a trebuchet. Next, steam-bending equipment and a workbench! I can only assume that mothers take their children inside when you're around.

Then again, I suppose the other kids at school run to your kids on Monday and ask, "So, what did your Dad do that was weird this weekend?"

Thanks for the write-up!

Steve Kubien

Ajax, Ontario

BTW, the holdfast has become one of my favourite tools!

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Wow.

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>It looks great! I could not imagine making something like that, but your write-up, with the accounts of the breakages, etc., makes it almost seem approachable. Maybe if I take a good class...

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Mike Rubes, Apex, NC

>Hi Darrell,

I really enjoyed your post and story. What a great chair! I'm sure it will get many, many years of use in your family. Thanks much for the pictorial essay.

Mike

Sitting in a not nearly so nice chair in Apex, NC!!

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Brad in Ottawa

>Great work... if you showed us a picture of the end product no one would have believed that you had some challenges with the enemy!

BTW... is that travisher a newer model or an old tool??

Thanks for sharing!

Brad

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Got to try one of those now.

Victor Parisian

>I had just assumed that Walnut would be to brittle for windsor chair construction.

Does anyone have such experiance with Mesquite?

Victor - sitting here on a Hermann Miller knock-off wishing I were there. Is it 5 o'clock yet?

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Darrell in Oakville

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Darrell in Oakville

>First off, thanks for the Kudos. Anyone who thinks they might want to build windsor chairs should take one of the classes offered at various places. It's a lot of fun, and you get to try it out before investing in a(nother) pile of tools.

Regarding the travisher, I built that one, along with a compass plane, before I took my chair class. My friend Dan (who took the class with me) had built a small forge from a cast iron frying pan, and we used the forge to make travisher and compass plane irons. The old make a tool to make a tool schtick.

Darrell

Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User

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Dennis

>Interesting, any pics or info on the cast iron frying pan forge?

Dennis,who just looked at huge cast iron frying pan at flea market for 2$ today.

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Darrell in Oakville

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Darrell in Oakville

>Dennis,

Yah, here's a picture of the forge. It's on loan right now, sitting in my garage. Dan's wife was happy to have it out of their garage, what with the place being so crowded with a couple more forges plus woodworking and metalworking benches, lumber hoard, &cetera.

Some angle iron for legs and a cheap blower (you could use a hair dryer) connected with some plumbing fittings and yer all set. You don't need coal, ordinary wood charcoal will work fine.

But be careful, it's really easy to melt tool steel with a forge. DAMHIKT.

Darrell

Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User


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Mike G.

>I have a couple of useless cast iron frying pans laying about.

Just drill a few holes through the bottom and "Bob's yer Uncle"??

Mike G. where there's a durth of frying pans and a drought of old tools.

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Useless?

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Little crisis of imagination here, but how does a cast iron frying pan become useless?

Pam

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Jack Guzman from Maine

The cook retires?

Jack Guzman from Maine

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Dennis

>Thanks for pic, not one cast iron frying pan at flea market this morning but sure is nice one in kitchen ...........hehe

Dennis, who is in the small forge building mode

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Try Google

Bob Hackett

>Last time I looked the span was from a firebrick forge(very useful for toolmaking)to a refractory lined forge built using a watering tank as a base for larger projects.

I know a guy who uses Kingsford charcoal and an old Electrolux vac to melt scrap and sand cast bronze parts.He gets all the old bronze,copper,brass,etc I find.

If you need further input on converting things like junk frying pans into useful things like a chip holder for your wood smoker just give me a shout offline and I`ll try and send you some of my bookmarked favorites.

Mainely,Bob-Who can still find farrier`s forges with hand cranked blowers for less than $100 if he digs around alittle north of here.

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tks Bob, will shout

Dennis

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Thanks Bob sent you and email

Chuck McKinley

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