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vaccum kiln pics and problems solved.

steve knight

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Here is a picture of my vacuum kiln. This sucker had a real hard birth ad a lot of mistakes. First trying to get a perfect seal this was the first battle. Never did solve that one. So the pump has to run all the time. But I found out it needs to anyway so that problem was solved (G) second was heating it. I had these heating bars that were inside and worked ok but they were pretty uneven. I had an electric blanket that died. The new ones have 10 hour shutoffs. I had some under floor heating wire. The first roll was perfect and worked well on 120. But I had hacked it up for my first kilns and I could not use it again. The second roll I got was not the same. It only worked on 220 and the 50 or 60 feet I used at once got way to hot and melted the insulation off the wire. At 120 it kept tripping the 20 amp breaker.


I finally broke down and bought these silicone heating pads. It was 20.00 more each to have self sticking so I just used aluminum tape. They were spendy at about 50.00 each for 12x24. Though they are rated at 700 watts max they don�t seem to draw that. I bought these from MSC and got the recommended heating controllers. 80.00 Each and I needed two of them.


Well it worked fine for a bit. But one controller would help making the pads overheat. I had one replaced and the second did the same thing. It really pissed me off to spend that much and have them fail.


A couple people here helped me out and I got the right type of controllers. Variable voltage controllers. The two shown here were built for me and made practical. I am testing them right now.


The last part is a vacuum pump. Not any pump will do. You need one that will pull atleast 29� of vacuum. You also need one that can handle some moisture. Or you need to make a condenser to get the water out of the line or your in trouble.


But after all that is met you can dry wood. I start heating the wood really slowly over a several day period. Then I turn on the vacuum pump. I use this to only finish drying woods that are not dry enough and I take my time and don�t use too much temp. Usually a couple of weeks.



My first wood to dry is a 500.00 piece of ebony for Wayne to make infill�s out of.






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Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>It is a thing of beauty. ;-)

Where did you get the pump?

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Steve,you are a wonder!

Bob Hackett

>It seems there are no limits to the things you will do(or are capable of)in order to make a better plane.

You are an inspiration to the rest of us.

Thanks for posting this.

Mainely,Bob

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steve knight

>ebay of course (G) I had a great old one one guy gave me. but in working the bugs out of this the motor died. then I bought one and it did not pull enough vacuum so I had to get another one. I bid on this really good powerful pump on ebay I figured I would get outbid but nope I won it. but I have nto bought the oil for it yet to try it out (G) I had to buy the rebuild kit for this one so it could pull the max vacuum. since this is a dry pump a little water does nto really bother it.

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Re: Steve,you are a wonder!

steve knight

>(G) well I do like to do such things. but one of the biggest problems with plane building I dry wood. I can't have wood over 2% too high in moisture content or the plane will crack. So I needed some way to get some woods down to where I need them fast. this project was a real battle becasue I never had enough money to spend to do it right. though in the long run I spent way too much.

Part of it is I don't have any extra money and never have so I ahd to figure out how to do it myself. I always wonder what I would do if I could afford to buy the things I need to do what I want.

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington Ontario

>Steve I have never built one but work in a power and processing plant so maybe a few thoughts to perfect it. If you have a industrial insulation supplier to help hold the heat in. If you have a industrial junk yard around you might be able to pick up a large piece of stainless pipe with a flange on it to make for easy sealing. As for the pump running all the time you could install a vacuum switch to start stop your pump. We run 150HP vacuum pumps and prefer teflon tape for all joints and neoprene gaskets for flanges seems to minimize leaks.

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Hoa Dinh in Alameda

>Steve,

I'm glad it works out for you. I've never realized it'd take so much time and effort and resoursefulness.

Learn something everyday.

-- Hoa

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steve knight

>I had others insulated but I have had more of a problem keeping it cool enough (G)but it is nice to be able to feel the pads to keep track of what they are doing. I don't trust this setup enough (G)

I use a neoprene pad on the lid.

but I found it needs to run all the time or you can't remove the moisture from the kiln. it will just puddle up inside the kiln.

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steve knight

>if I did it rigth the first few tiems it would have helped (G) but I did not spend ehough on it at fist and tried to do it the cheap way.

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Tom Colligan, Peoria

>Steve, why do you need to dry wood? Wouldn't all the wood you buy - like us - already be suitable as is? Tia, Tom

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steve knight

>I sure wish (G) ebony and cocobolo are the biggest problem. but what I need is a large wood budget so I can have wood sitting around for a year or more. lets see 200bf of ebony is only 13000.00

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