Shapton Ceramic Stones

Re: Shapton Ceramic Stones

Tom Colligan, Peoria

>Kieren, yes, quite a few of the neanders here have them and they are nearly universally approved of. As for flattening, and speaking for myself, I did buy the $105 plate but it's not something I use often. In the span of two years I've only used it once - though that's not to say others wouldn't have used it more often.

Re: Shapton Ceramic Stones

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>I have three, and they seem to work fine. I use a DMT diamond plate to flatten them, as needed.

Re: Shapton Ceramic Stones

steve knight

>so far these are the fastest cutting least wearing stones that you can buy. it is not practical to use sandpaper to flatten them they are too hard for that job. I use the lapping plate right now. though I plan on getting the diamond flatening stone.

Re: Shapton Ceramic Stones

Paul In NJ

>I have two Shapton stones, a 1000 and a 320 grit. I like the 1000 a whole lot but I think I wasted my money buying the 320 grit stone. The 320 seems much softer and hollows so fast that it doesn�t do the job I purchased it for, flattening plane and chisel backs. I use the cheap 2x6 220 grit DMT diamond stone to flatten the Shaptons. I tried sandpaper and drywall screens to keep the stones flat but it was slow, the DMT really speeds things up.

Paul Dzioba

Re: the same thing than with other rough stones ?

Christof Hartge

>Dear Paul and all the others,

many thanks for your answer. I was on the point to purchase the 120 and the 320 stone. I did want to have stones for quick, rough sharpening without the big mess my normal blue-green waterstone does produce.

Do you or anybody else know anything about the 120 and his qualities?

Greetings,

Christof.

Re: the same thing than with other rough stones ?

steve knight

>the 120 seems to be pretty strong. I have heard the 220 pro is pretty good. I have a 120 hippo stone that I plan on selling I changed the way I work and I don't need it now. no use having it sitting around. it's almost new. but it is pretty fast and did not seem to wear much at all.

For roughing, rebevelling, and back flattening

Wiley Horne--Glendora CA

>Harrelson himself recommended the 120 about a year ago. I went against him and bought the 220. The 220 is OK, but if I had it to do over again, I'd get the 120. Harrelson referred to the 120 as a 'monster' , and of course that is what is needed for heavy work.

Wiley

Re: Shapton Ceramic Stones

kkamm

>Don,

Thanks for the input. Are your stones (i.e the Shapton ones!) the professional series ones which are harder. If so, what grit DMT plate do you use to flatten them.

Thanks.

Kieran

120 Pro

Kurt Loup

>Call me crazy, but I think my 120 Pro stone cuts only slightly faster than my King 800 grit waterstone. The King is also harder. The 120 is the worst Shapton stone out of the 5 I have, 120 pro, 1000 pro, 2000 pro, 5000 pro and 12,000 M5.

Kurt

Re: Shapton Ceramic Stones

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>Yes, they are the professional series. I use an extra-course DMT (it is what I had around).

Re: Shapton Ceramic Stones

steve knight

>if you want to save money on a diamond flattenign source this is what you want.

but if you want a good tool and save money a diamond lap or diamond sanding belts cost less.

http://www.lopacki.com/belts/

http://www.lopacki.com/flatlaps/

you would get the master lap for the flat surface and a 100 mesh or so lap. they will cut faster and last longer then a DMT stone.

shop around for prices as I just grabbed this one. I use a master lap on my makita for sandpaper.

I'll defer immediately

Wiley Horne--Glendora CA

>to Kurt's (and others') experience with the 120. I only have the 220 Shapton, among the coarse stones, and was quoting Harrelson on the 120.

Wiley

Re: I like the 120

Lyn J. Mangiameli

>Perhaps there is some variability in the Shaptons, but my 120 stone is superb. By far the fastest cutting stone I have (of many), and my all time favorite for getting warped blades (which is really pretty common) flat enough for the other stones. My only dismay is that it wears pretty quickly. In the coarse of flattening all the blade backs for the last study (yah, don't anybody say it) I used up 3/4 of its thickness. But well worth it nonetheless. If I could only have two Shaptons, it would be the 100/120 and the 12000 (now, I guess the 15000). The third would be the 1000, but you can find alternatives here, I just don't know of any good alternatives for the other two.

Re: I like the 120

steve knight

>one thing I noticed on the 120 is it tends to remove a bit more from the middle of the blade then the ends. so when I went to the 1000 stone I saw the ends were not getting the scratches. well I think it was the ends it's been awhile. this was the same effect I got when I wore out most of the makita stone or the shapton stone mounted on the makita. so it took too much work (wel lI want speed) to get the bevel flat on the 1000. this was the reason I went to using sandpaper on my makita then I can go right to the 1000 with no problems.