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Rust hunting tales of woe (longish)

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Rust hunting tales of woe (longish)

Mike G.

>I posted this true story on another forum a year ago or so. I thought y'all might get a kick out of it.

I have a question. What's possibly the stupidest or most amateurish tool hunting mistake you've ever made? Just to be fair, I'm going to go first. Here's some background "info". I, like a lot of you, started my internet woodworking odyssey on Rec.woodworking. That is where I first heard about the "Slippery Slope". So I knew about Patrick Leach's Stanley Blood and Gore website.

The reason I was reminded of this story is because, yesterday, I decided to clean my shop. It was a mess with curly shavings about six inches deep around my work mutt work bench and tools scattered as much as tools can be scattered in a ten by ten foot shop.

I had promised myself that I would read and re-read the treatise on the Stanley planes religously. Unfortunately, I only got as far as the link to the No. 45's and 55's. I sure did read those pages, and just gave the rest of the information on the "other" Stanley planes a cursory examination. When I say cursory, I mean I pretty much skipped over the rest.

I acquired a type 7 No. 45 and a pre-1910 No. 78 off of Ebay. I then got the Rust hunting fever bad. When we went to flea markets, I kept a lookout for old tools. At first, I did pretty good for myself. Bought a few Disston and Sons saws, a couple of old woodies, try plane, and a skewed rabbet plane.

Well, on the afternoon in question, Swmbo and I went to the Dillard, Ga. flea market. I don't know what it was. Maybe it was because the old guy from before wasn't there. (Two weeks before, we had gone to Dillard and this older gentleman was there with about three tables of woodworking and machinist's tools. Just about everything he had was pre- 1930.) Unfortunately, I was low on cash and he was firm on his prices. I bought an older North Brothers push drill with points for ten bucks. Maybe it was because everytime I stopped to look at some "rust", Swmbo would give me "The Look". She knew what she wanted and it wasn't tools!

I was extremely frustrated by this time, having already passed up a Bedrock 605 for twenty-five bucks. It had a chunk missing from the trailing edge of the side. As far as using it, it would've been just fine. Swmbo said" It's broke, you aint buying it."... me... " But it's a Bedrock, Dear."... she... " I don't care if it's got Fred Flinstone's autograph on it, You aint buying it" This heard by several bystanders. ( I could hear the snickers as we walked off) I've got a red beard. Unfortunately, my beard used to be brown.

So as we were leaving, I saw this odd looking plane sidled up against a box lot at the last table before we got to the car. It was grungy and more than a little bit rusty, but I could see the side of it and it said... No. 181, under which it said...Stanley. It had about ten percent of it's jappaning left, some scrollwork along with dimpling on the tote, which was also missing a chunk off of the horn. What struck me as odd, however, was it looked like a chisel plane. (I wasn't quite studied up on all the Stanley numbers yet.) I asked the guy how much he wanted and he said four bucks. I offered him two bucks and he said sold.

Swmbo asked me..."What did you buy now". I said as we got out of earshot of the dealer, " I just bought an old Stanley No. 181 Chisel Plane. She said," Is that a rare plane?" I was feeling pretty good by this time and retorted, " I think so Dear. I'm gonna check out the "Blood and Gore" website when we get home. I've never seen a plane like this one before."

I thought my luck had changed as we drove home. In fact, my beard was even changing back to brown. It was almost a euphoric high I felt as we crossed the Georgia/ South Carolina line. I was feeling so darn good, I took Swmbo to dinner at the Bar-B-Que restaurant in Westminster,S.C she likes. We finally got home and after unloading the car, I checked out the "Blood and Gore" website.

Imagine my chagrin as I read that a Stanley No. 181 was just a "run-of-the-mill" Rabbet Plane, much like the Stanley No. 78 I already had. As I re-examined my new acquisition, I saw where the front, bullnose section had been broken off. The break was so clean that,with the grunge it was covered in, it looked like it was made that way. Boy, was I embarrassed. I now have a full-fledged red beard. It has been red for the last two years.

There you have it friends and neighbors, the sad tale of an amateur rust hunter who went into the fray with an overblown opinion of his talents as a hunter of things "Rust" and came out a much more humble man.

Let's have it now people. Share with us your most embarrassing tales of woe as you hunted for that elusive Rust.

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A Saw Thief

Todd Hughes

>Some years back I went to my every other week antique shop the one where we would get there two hours early and get a number to be let in. Back then it was a real gold mine and this particular day was no different.Lots Of tools. Best thing I found was this little Richardson Bros. backsaw that was just MINT still had the paper label on the handle.Really a thing of beauty and wonderment. I put it on the top of my now full basket and not wanting to carry it around took it up to the check out counter and had them put it behind them on a shelf like I always did. Went back hunting and soon had some more stuff so went up to the counter to put it in my basket.Looked in and ....my Saw was gone! asked the counter people and they hadn't seen anything but I described it to them, couldn't miss it with that label and told them to not sell it to anybody because they had to steal it out of my basket.I went looking for it and soon my wife came and told me two guys were at the counter with the saw.I go up and sure enough here is this guy with my saw.I asked him where he got that saw and he said he found it in the back.Sure he did. I told him that I had it in my basket behind the counter and "sombody" reached behind it and took it out.Thanked him for finding it and held out my hand for the saw.Told me I was mistaken.I said I don't think so. Then his "friend" chirped up and said who cares because they "Have it now!" I was steamed already and to be smart mouthed to by a thief was IT for sure so I told them ,"Well boys you might have the saw "now" but I'm going to kick your A** soon as you walk outside and we will see who has it then" Both these guys were little fellows that weighed about 100lb so I was pretty certain I was going to too. They get all flusted and the one guy tells me I better calm down because his friend is getting excited! Told him that unless he starts to turn green and gets to busting out of that shirt he is going to be getting lots more then "Excited" The store people were of no help whats so ever so I went and stood outside the door waiting to get my saw.They stood inside and mouthed off some more then all at once ran out the back door where I didn't know it they had parked thier giant SUV. For little fellows they sure could run but i was right behind them but not close enough as they got into the truck just befor me.When I went back to borrow an axe they took off and almost run me over. I'm normaly a very easy going person but boy these guys just burned me up, still fries me thinking about that beautiful little saw. Was funny my wife told the store people..."Weve been married 10 years and I have never seen him that mad...and I once knocked him out with a shovel and he didn't even get upset!" ......Todd

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Re: Rust hunting tales of woe (longish)

Rick W.

>I went into an antique store where I'd had good luck before, and spotted a rusty combination plane on the floor."Oh, well, another 45" I thought to myself, and didn't even pick it up.

I ended up buying another tool(I don't remember what it was) and the clerk asked me if I'd seen that plane, because it was 20% off.I said I had, but wasn't interested. He told me someone else bought it right before me. I asked how much they had bought it for and he said,"Twenty dollars.It had some name on it. "What was the name on it? " I said.

He looked it up and said"Siegley."

Sometimes I'm too smart for my own good.

Rick W.

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Re: A ****saw Thief

George in Lowell, Mich.

>I blew off work (machinist in a factory) to go to an estate sale. It was billed as "more tools than you could possibly imagine" and a ****saw. I figured this was way more important than my job so at 5:00 AM I parked my car at the address. I signed in and was to be the 12th person to go inside!!!!!

The door finally opened at 8:00 and I zoomed to the basement as this was where the mother lode was. There were the tools...... four 4x8 sheets of plywood with about 500-600 screwdrivers, hammers,& wrenches! Skirting the "tools" I zeroed in on the ****saw. It had 2 stickers on it. "needs work" and the price.

I opened the cover to see what work it needed and someone ran up, tore off the pricetag, and then ran away.

I said "It needs work". He said "Iknow". That was the last I saw him. I learned a valuable lesson that day. Take the price tag, then inspect the item.

George

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Simple solutions

Bob Hackett

>We have a simple solution for things like that here.You stand on the guy`s foot,that way he can`t go anywhere till the conversation`s over.

I learned this early in life from a horse who used to stand on my foot till it felt I had brushed it enough.

I relearned it at a Texas biker party years later.

I re-relearned it at a tag sale here in Maine.By that time it had sunk in and I walked away with the item.The other fellow was unable to negotiate further and left shortly after our talk.

Mainely,Bob

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Re: Rust hunting tales of woe (longish)

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>This happened to me about a 18 months ago.

At a flea market I spot an old DeWalt Radial arm saw form about the 40'sor 50's. I give it a quick lookover, looks good, seller say $125 I said $100, he said sold! I'm thinking HO! HO! HO! I'm gonna call the Orginal Saw Company and sel it to them for a quick $500 profit. So I call them up, jive them the model # etc, etc, and he says "I've got so many of them setting around that I can't move that I'm not even interested in it for parts" Well, Some Beach!

Got right here on WC and bragged about this foutune-waiting-to-be-made, and a lurker from the area e-mails me and says "Todd, I think I know the saw of which you speak, and if it is than the motor carrier has been welded". So I go go check and Some Beach! it the saw of which I speak. Still got that beast sitting out in one of my storage areas hogging up space.

Good news out of the deal is that the Lurker and I have become very good buddies and enjoy all the benefits of rust-hunting together, gloating over "what-I just-found's" and in general just having a blast together.

Todd O.

Who has an old RAS for sale--CHEAP!

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