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What good is a patternmaker's rasp...

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

>...if it doesn't have a handle? These are handles I made last night for my new #49 and #50 Nicholsons. The ferrule is made from a 5/8 "short rod nut"--a brass fitting available in the plumbing dept. at Lowes, Home Depot, etc. The little flange and part of the hex were removed using a belt sander and file. The handles are hexagonal and carved at the end to receive the ferrule (would be easier to use a lathe). The ferrule is a tight fit but also pinned in place with 2 tiny brass wood screws that were filed flush. Dimension between flats is 1 inch.

Pic of the brass fitting before promotion to ferrulehood to follow.


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Ferrule material 

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

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Kurt Loup, Baton Rouge

>Nice job. I may have to try that out.

Kurt

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Mike L

>Very clever idea Rich and the result is some nice-looking (and I presume comfortable) handles. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

Mike

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Really nice...

Tony - Memphis

>Can you expand a bit on your technique? Thanks.

Tony

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Please yes...

Dan Moening, in foggy Sacramento

>How do you deal with the internal threads?

Are the short rods "screwed" onto the handle stock?

Dan.

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I was thinking the same thing

Ernie Miller Topeka

>I have both of them and no handles. You might as well send me an even dozen as I'm sure I need at least that many.

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Long-winded details...

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

>I started out with hexagonal blanks about 1/8" larger than the hexagonal brass fitting. I oversized them to allow belt sanding later to make the wood exactly flush with the brass.

The brass fitting is threaded inside the big end and smooth inside the small end, so the end of each wood blank had to be reduced to 2 different diameters with a step in between. this would have been a piece of cake on a lathe, but since I don't have one I did it with some judicious saw kerfs and a chisel.

I shaped the brass fittings by hand on a stationary belt sander (brass sands REALLY easily), smoothing off the corners of the hexagonal part except where it was to match up with the handle, then touched them up with a file. Easier to do than it sounds--took about 5 minutes.

I tried to screw the ferrules on using a 1" socket and ratchet but was not very successful. The ferrules ended up being partly threaded and partly pounded into place. Basically, the wood kind of shredded instead of threading nicely. That might be a function of a) the wood (cherry and walnut in this case) and b)the diameter of the handle at the point at which I was trying to screw the ferrule on. I just carved the handle down to a cylinder by eye and it was a little lumpy. I think if you have a lathe you could do a couple test diameters to see which the ferrule could actually cut threads in. Maybe even taper the area so the threading can start more easily.

Once the ferrule was seated on the handle I went back to the belt sander and evened the wood up with the brass, then hand-sanded until everything was smoothed to my satisfaction. Tapered the back end of the handles a bit just for looks.

The ferrules ended up pretty tight despite the lousey threads, but since I was worried they might loosen I drilled a 1/16" hole through the brass (centered on a flat) in 2 places 180 degrees apart, then drilled ~1/4" further into the wood with a 1/32" pilot drill. I then screwed a tiny (size 0) flat head brass screw into each hole and filed the head off.

Then I driled a 1/8" hole in the business end of each handle and kind of reamed it into a flared shape by pivoting the drill. Then I stuck the tang in, put the tip of the rasp against a wood scrap, and pounded the handle on. Those rasps are really thin, and I was worried they might break, but they survived the pounding-on process.

Wiped the handles with some tung oil and called them done!

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very cool!

Paul DeWitt, Colo Springs, CO

>Maybe you could ask for this to be posted as an article, along with the 2 photos, so it is preserved. Thanks for the details.

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Thank you for the details!

Dan Moening, in foggy Sacramento

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inspiration I was looking for...

John Longwitz-Doraville, GA

>...got the pair of patternmaker's rasps from Jamestown, thanks to one of y'alls posting awhile back, and intend to make handles for them in a bit. I have a lathe so may just use the brass fitting with different technique on the installation part. Thanks!

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>It may be easier to thread the ferrules onto the handles if you saw some kerfs into the threads.(Small jig saw blade or a narrow file) This creates sort of a "die" effect and allows the leading edge of the thread at the kerf to cut the thread and lets the removed wood fibers have someplace to go.JR

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Re: Ditto! Thanks!

Jim Toews - Walla Walla, WA

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For chisels as well?

Svante Nilsson

>Hi,

A very smart idea!

I am working on some chisels and have planned to have hexagonal handles. Are there any reason why this method can not be used for chisels as well.

Regards,

Svante

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Yep...

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

>Hi Svante--

One of the brass fittings used on the rasps was purchased a few years ago with the intent of using it for a chisel handle. I had cut the blue plastic handle off of a Marples Blue Chip and was going to make a more aesthetically pleasing one, but I lost interest before I actually made the handle. Note: The 5/8" fitting used on the rasp will probably be too big for a chisel (1" between the flats). I also bought some 1/2" versions of the brass fittings that look like they would be a better size for chisels. I'm going to try that next.

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Ten-four.

Rich Glisson (Durham, NC)

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Thanks!

Tony - Memphis

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