Handsaw ID question

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Dennis

>Sounds like a disston but hard to say in any case. Take a look at link below and scroll to bottom of page for info on "Warrented Superior"

Friend picked up this saw over the weekend and my guess is this is one of those companys that bought sawnuts from disston,saw was junk but did have this medallion that the eagle match's the warrented superior but in this case says W S & M co above and the warrented below eagle. Another odd one for sure.

Dennis, who didnt find anything in North Florida this weekend.




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Re: Handsaw ID question

Ernie Miller *Topeka

>you would have a better idea if you look at the saw handles instead of the medalions as several companys used the eagle warrented superior. It is very possable that Disston mde the saw nd put the hardware etch on it but it could also be an Atkins or one of the other major saw makers.

small hijack and disagreement...

John Longwitz-Doraville, GA

>...with the opinion expressed on the link that Dennis posted. Something to the effect that over 100 year old saws should be preserved as is and not used for their intended purpose. I tend to think most of the craftsmen from all eras took care of their tools and used them properly. I doubt many of them would like to know that they have been relegated to museum pieces. I sincerely hope that, when I pass on, whoever gets my tools will properly care for and use them.

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Ryan Selberg in Salt Lake City

>Thanks for your post and medallion picture, Dennis. The medallion on my saw is somewhat similar to yours, with the words being different, and my eagle being a bit more raised in relief (more 3-D?). It also has no inner ring of stars, whatever, separating the words from the eagle.

As to the maker, I have looked at virtually all the references I can find, both my own catalogues and on line sites (including Disstonian Institute and Vintage Saws) and I can find no saw that really comes close in handle design, especially the squared shoulder above the hand-hole. I am trying to find the maker's identity more for my own curiosity, as I will thoroughly enjoy the saw regardless-both to admire and to rip boards, but with an eye to taking good care of it.

Ryan

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>When saws get bact to a certian age the steel is more britle and and you can easly lose teeth setting them Really old saws are quite rare as they got used up. or sharpened to nothing. I doubt that this saw is all that old. late 1800's at the most and if it has a hardware etch that would make it a user in most cases

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Dennis

>I poked around a bit and found this,

1897.98 LAIN'S DIRECTORY Brooklyn

LEZOLI Jos. hardware 1819 Myrtle av h 238 Cent'l av

LEZOLI & Hanson hardware 1319 Myrtle av

so from that one could guess old joe was involved in 3 hardware store's in 1897. This really won't help in dating saw but more or less confirms they got the saw's from disston and put there own sawnuts on or had disston make them. I would tend to think,even in those days, they would need the volume in saw sales to have their own line.

Not even going to get into the user/collector side of this.

Dennis, who is enjoying 81F with light breeze.

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Re: more info

Ernie Miller Topeka

>That pretty much narrows down the saw date within a few years. I would say if it was of intrest to a collector it would be one from the Brooklin unless some one is trying to find every hardware etch. But this info dosen't make it a disston.

Re: Handsaw ID question

Skip in Falls Church

>Hmmm, considering that the hardware store was located in Brooklyn, is there any chance it could be a saw by Harvey Peace?

Skip

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Dennis

>I am not sure it is a disston made, just a guess on my part. Was sitting out in the sun having a cold one and the "light came on"...with no picture of the saw,etch,sawnuts it is waste of time to guess. sometimes we really do have too much time on our hands i think. Maybe Ryan will come up with some pic's and then, we can maybe know more.

Dennis,who has to finish some projects real quick or else.

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Ryan Selberg in Salt Lake City

>Thanks, guys, for at least giving me some more information to go on. I have two sons who are very adept at the computer, but both live in different states. One will be home for Christmas, so I'll put him to work to teach me how to post photos. I'll post pictures then, and maybe we can get some more ideas. I think everyone will actually enjoy seeing a fairly unusual handle design on a saw in really nice shape.

Thanks,

Ryan