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I can get two cherries - opinions?

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I can get two cherries - opinions?

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I can get two cherries - opinions?

Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>The more or less local bauhaus, a home improvement store with roots in germany, now stocks two cherries chisels, gouges and carving tools. And since its only half an hours drive away Im really tempted to buy a full set of them. I bought the 6mm just to check them out, first impression is not so flat back, hard steel and misaligned handle. Since its so buffed, the corners on the back are rounded and it took some work to get the back flat all the way across. Its also bellied. The handle got aligned with the help of a pair of pliers. I havent used it yet, only sharpened it.

What they are to match:

I have several japanese chisels for "finer" work, but Id like to replace my mixed set of marples blue chips and others. The carpentry chisels if you like...

The chisels costs 128 SEK which equals 8.5 usd, tax included, which Im willing to pay. So price isnt the issue, id just like to know how they are in the long run.

Sooo.... who has these and how do y�all like them?

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#2

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Dennis McDonaugh

>Two Cherries are pretty good chisels--they take and hold an edge very well. I like the shiny look, but you are right they are hard to flatten because the edges are rounded over. I've never used the carving chisels.

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Steve Kubien

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Steve Kubien

>Hello Sweden!

The Two Cherries and Hirsch chisels are the same steel, made in the same plant. I have the Hirsch firmers and love them. Both brands always get very good reviews in the magazines and from people who own them. Can you get better chisels? Probably. Will the Two Cherries serve you very well? Absolutely.

Now send back our NHLer's so we can get some hockey going! I envy you right now.

Steve Kubien

Ajax, Ontario

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Wiley Horne--Glendora CA

>Jonathan,

I think you'd get more response on this, except that the archives are chock full of good testimonials and test results on Two Cherries.

Several months ago, maybe a year, the folks at Furniture & Cabinet Making magazine (UK) tested a wide range of western chisels. They were trying to figure out the best available replacement for vintage western chisels. Two Cherries came out on top overall, and among the UK brands, I think they picked Ray Iles' chisels. The test criteria were a combination of ergonomics and edge holding, as I recall.

It's a killer price. In fact, outrageous. Go for it.

Wiley

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#5

*ka-ching*

Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>Yup, I will get them. I had the feeling the price was good but wanted to hear from others... At first I picked up the set of 5 in a wooden box, but managed to put it down again and pick the 6mm instead.(all while telling myself "I dont _need_ more chisels...yeah right")But then payday is just ahead =) So I will bring the straightedge and pick the good ones.

Oh and I thought I had fixed the offset handle - well guess again. It didnt feel straight so I checked, and it was still off. So I put it in the vice and tried to twist the handle. Didnt work at all. I actually couldnt get it to move, but the blade twisted instead. And guess what end ended up against the concrete floor when it rolled off the bench? I suppose a flat on the handle would fix that.

So tomorrow Ill pick them straight and well-handled ones and save myself some fuss. Aint shopping for tools good?

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paul womack

>the folks at Furniture & Cabinet Making magazine (UK) tested a wide range of western chisels. ... Two Cherries came out on top overall,

I think (conformation welcomed) that David Charleworth disagreed in a letter in subsequent issue. His objection was the rounded (buffed?) backs that have already been mentioned. This makes flattening the backs all the way to the sides laborious.

This is annoying, since it would be cheaper for the manufacturer to just omit the process. Perhaps "a word" might be in order?

BugBear

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Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>Yes I agree about that - it would save them and us some labour. It would be a good argument for them to write in the ads aswell.

Hmmm.... lets give �em a hint, shall we?

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#8

Gloatable?

Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>Just got back from bauhaus. I bought 5 more chisels; the 8mm, 10mm, 14mm, 16mm and 24mm. I also bought a small knife(style 56) which Ill use as a marking knife.

The 8, 10, 14 & 15 cost 129 SEK each(and so did the 6mm I bought monday), and the 24mm cost 159 SEK. The knife 64 SEK, giving a grand total of todays toys of 739 SEK or 108USD.

Same stuff from joel would have cost 121 USD + shipping, and 25% tax would have been added in the customs in sweden. So I think I did quite well on this.... Of course time spent also matters, but since I bought some other stuff in the same area I see it as recreational time.

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#9

Re: Gloatable?

paul womack

>...Same stuff from joel

Given the actual starting point of the chisels (Germany), and the end point (Sweden) it tallies with my sense of rightness that sending them via NY ain't the cheapest way :-)

This is not meant to imply any criticism of Joel, BTW.

BugBear

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#10

Ask Joel

Dan Donaldson

>If he still has any, but he used to have a set of two cherries that were a good price because they were not buffed. (kinda what you were asking for.;-) I bought a set of them, and they did not have the rounded edges due to the buffing, and were quite a bit cheaper to boot. They did require sharpening, but it was a lot easier not having to take off the rounding, not to mention not paying for the buffing that I didn't want anyway.

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Re: Gloatable? *LINK*

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Dieter's competitive, assuming a preconfigured set of 6 is suitable.

Pam


Dieter's Two Cherries Set

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#12

Re: Ask Joel

joel

>We still carry the unpolished set of four in a wooden box. Unfortunatly we cannot get the set without a box.

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#13

Sure thing =)

Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>Yeah, I agree with you... Of course the guy running the parcel must be paid =)

I never meant to critisize any of the dealers about the pricing, especially not joel who is a helpful person. The thing is I havent seen these chisels "for real" before, Ive only been drooling in various catalogs on the web(Joels mostly).

A set from any of the web dealers would have been more $$ and longer wait for me until now, so Im just happy I found them here, was able to hold them and feel what they are like, pick the straightest/flattest ones and be able to go back and buy more of them =)

Its like wanting something thats far away for a long time, and then have it show up within reach by accident. And be not so expensive as you thought. Im just happy, thats all....

Joel, why do they buff them? Is it cosmetic or is there some reason Ive missed?

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Re: Sure thing =)

joel

>I am told it is simply what the market demands in Germany. I suppose with chisels that are sharpened sharp enough to shave with, the reason for the mirror polish is because you need to see what you are doing when shaving.

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#15

Re: unbuffed Two Cherries chisels

paul womack

>We still carry the unpolished set of four in a wooden box.

Is this a standard line from the factory, or did you have to make a special request?

BugBear

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#16

Re: unbuffed Two Cherries chisels

joel

>IT's a special "promotional line" from the factory

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#17

Re: unbuffed Two Cherries chisels

paul womack

>It's a special "promotional line" from the factory

Perhaps some favourable feedback is called for :-)

BugBear

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