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Handles for Shooting Board Planes

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Handles for Shooting Board Planes

Paul in NJ

>The thread "My new T5" got me into the shop to try an idea I had for a shooting board plane. Stanley's version had a canted handle as William mentioned later in the thread. I made a wood spacer for my #5 that fits between the handle and the plane body and cants the handle 45 degrees. I had to move the handle aft to offset the fastening screws but I think there is enough room to offset the handle forward the same amount. I think that will improve the balance. I think it works nicely and I will be looking for a #6 for my shooting plane but then again I might modify a wooden jack (more bearing surface). I think it would be great if Lee Valley or Lie-Nielsen would offer one for their low angle planes or maybe to retro on Stanley planes. What do you think?

Paul Dzioba


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Paul in NJ

>I know it looks clunky but this was prototype and only took a short while.

Paul Dzioba


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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>The link below shows one solution to this for wooden planes, a handle that goes through the plane and can be adjusted from one side to the other. Based on a trip through the Sloane museum, US toolmakers were also familiar with this technique.

Pam


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By golly, that's brilliant!

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

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steve knight

>what no matching wood?? (G) do you think 45 degrees would be better then say 90? where the handle would point straight up?

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Re: A couple of ideas *LINKS*

William R. Duffield on the Cohansey

>Kewl!

Lie-Nielsen builds a tilting handle into their #101/4, and all you would have to do to adapt it to a chute board is to install a narrower blade. Not an inexpensive solution, however.

And then there is this homemade tilting handle for a #4, in George Langford's Basement, but it's way beyond my skills and machinery.

Your idea has a lot of merit for a dedicated chute board plane. I agree with you regarding the balance, since the hand that would normally apply pressure to the knob is instead holding the stock against the stop, it would probably be more effective to move the tote as far forward as you can manage.

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Paul in NJ

>Steve,

I think 45 degrees helps keep everything aligned better.

Paul Dzioba

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Paul in NJ

>This was just my first cut to see how it would work out. I think a #6 or #7 will be better balanced than my #5 since they have more mass behind the blade.

Paul Dzioba

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Skip in Falls Church

>WOW! Another alternative. That's a great idea. I don't do a lot of shooting - but when I do I always seem to end up with blisters or other assorted pains in the hand. I'll have to try that one too!

Skip

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I think you...

Scott Burr Ben Lomond,CA

>get a gold star! Great idea Paul. It seems to me that a 5 could get squirrelly with that set up, especially on longer boards. Hummmm... side handles ad your modifications could make 5's scarce ;)

There are no new designs & black is the new black...

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paul womack

>do you think 45 degrees would be better then say 90?

When shooting (using a traditional shooting board) you have to push the plane DOWN to keep the cheek on the running surface, LEFT, to keep the plane riding on the guide surface, and FORWARD to make the cut.

A 90 degree handle is not ideal for all this:-)

BugBear

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Bob Hackett

>In those pics it looks like the person operating the plane is not making much use of the thru handle,maybe only one knuckle seems to be pushing against it.I would think that a woodie would be better served by rounding the aft corner if used as a shooting plane.

The shots do show that it`s a whole lot easier to grip a wood plane for shooting.That and the excellent glide of wood on wood is enough to convince me and as we all know I`m not the least bit prejudiced toward wood planes.;^)

Mainely,Bob

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Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

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William R. Duffield on the Cohansey

>That's not much help. I don't get any HTML violations from here. I checked that it worked before I posted the message. Can you provide more info on the specific error you received from your browser, which browser, including version, and which operating system? Was the error transient or persistent? Have you received the same or similar error on any of my other posts, either with fractions or with links that open in another window?

Anyone else seeing a similar error?

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No "error" but...

Dan Moening in foggy Sacramento

>everything past the 10 1/4 link is in a smaller font.

IE6.0 W2K

Dan.

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I fixed it

Dan Donaldson

>after the 1 in 1/4, there was an extra, unterminated <sup (it was missing the greater than also) which put everything past that into subscript mode because of the way the following ones stacked up.

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Skip in Falls Church

>"I think it would be great if Lee Valley or Lie-Nielsen would offer one for their low angle planes or maybe to retro on Stanley planes. What do you think?" Paul

After thinking about it, it seems to me that if someone made a metal block modeled after your wooden one and supplied all the necessary hardware they could sell a kit to quickly and reveribly modify a plane for shooting.

It doesn't seem that it would be that expensive - but I suppose the cost effectiveness of it would depend on the demand for it. However, there are a lot of old Stanleys out there and if I recall correctly, the totes for the #5 to #8 are the same size so one size would fit all.

Hey! Maybe even sell a shooting board with the metal adaptor? Maybe that would increase the demand?

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William R. Duffield on the Cohansey

>Thanks, Dan! That explains why I couldn't see anything wrong with it when I just looked at the source. I guess I should learn how to edit posts myself. We could work out an arrangement where I fix your spelling glitches, and you correct my HTML syntax glitches.

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>You really don't use the handle for heavy pushing/pulling in this case, more for guiding. While most of your force is directed toward the piece, pushing away from the piece on the top helps keep the plane at 90�. This is much easier to do with the handle. Also keeps your fingers out of the wrong places. DAMHIKT :)

Pam

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;-)

Dan Donaldson

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>I have been thinking that it is fairly easy to make a Krenov style plane, and when I get around to making a decent shooting board I'll just make a plane to go with it. It seemes to me that with the narrow bearing surface on the side of a bench plane it is asking for inaccuracy; but that's just my opinion. Your plane looks like it would be fairly comfortable to use.

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