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Congrats to Adam C. and Scott G.! *LINK*

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Congrats to Adam C. and Scott G.! *LINK*

Brad in Ottawa

>If you haven't received your annual FWW Tools and Shops issue, then check out the online preview! The gallery section contains a great looking tool chest from Adam Cherubini and an infill scraping plane by Scott Grandstaff!

Both pieces are fantastic!

Adam, if you are reading this I have a couple of questions:

1) What is a crab lock?

2) Why was mahogany used for the till?

3) What process/factors led you to design the till layout? (Tools, historical examples, personal preference)

4) What does the top of the lid look like??

Brad


http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/fw_readshow_174.asp

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Received?

Dan Moening, in rainy Sacramento

>Is the "Tools & Shops" issue part of a subscription?

I seem to recall having to buy it at the news-stand last year...

Dan.

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>If you bought an annual subscription, the "Tools and Shops" issue is part of it. Haven't seen mine yet.

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Russ Allen - Chicago

>There is more info on Scott's plane at the link below. I've emailed Scott to let him know he is being mentioned here. Hopefully he'll surface to say hello.

Scott is also good at repairing perfect handled screwdrivers. The one he did for me is shown here.

Russ Allen

Chicago


Scott's scraper plane

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Adam Cherubini, NJ

>Brad,

1) What is a crab lock?

Its a typical 18th century chest lock. The striker looks like an arrow head and the lock like a crab with two spring loaded claws. The striker spreads the claws apart then they slam back together (on the arrow's shaft, if you will). My lock is original. What i liked about it is that when the lid is closed, the chest locks automatically. That keeps Dad's sharpest and most interesting tools out of reach. As long as the lid is closed, I know the chest is locked.

2) Why was mahogany used for the till?

Because I had it, first and foremost. The use of a fancier wood for interior appointments was typical in the 19th century. (see below)

3) What process/factors led you to design the till layout? (Tools, historical examples, personal preference)

Historical examples is the right answer. The tools in the box, both in terms of general form and specific types and sizes are all well researched and documentable. That chest represents what a well supplied cabinetmaker had in the mid to late 18th century. But there's a longer story behind this.

4) What does the top of the lid look like??

Its just flat. I actually had to glue up two pieces though to make up the 20" or so width. There's a bogus molding running around it.

Here's the longer story: Proceed at your own risk!

I set out to build an 18th century chest. Unfortunately there aren't many examples. Of the exisiting documentable examples, none seem to have common features. So I began studying 19th century chests including one in my wife's family. Using the 19th century chests in comparison, typical 18th century features emerged. The 18th century chests:

*are longer and lower than 19th century models

*usually have only a single till

*lids are held on with strap hinges

*are typically painted that blue green color, yuck!

*always have rope handles

My chest exhibits these characteristics, but it fails to provide any further insight into 18th c sensibilities. The problem was my own arrogant frame of reference. My tools feature an uncommon uniformity. The neat rows of matching tools in the till, though typical of 19th century chests, fails to indicate the naturalistic predilection of the 18th century mind. In the end I learned more from my mistakes (like the nice neat molding under the lid that can't be seen) and more about myself and how little I understood about the world, than I did from any success of finishing the chest.

I wrote an article for FWW on the research, and the construction of the chest and what I learned about 18th century workshops. But since I didn't use japanese saws, and its not shaker inspired, arts and crafts, tansu doored, curly cherry, they passed. (I'm not bitter) That was two years ago. I got an email a few months ago asking for a new picture (which I immediately sent all starry eyed and flattered) so that's what you see!

While I'm telling you the naked truth, I must admit I'm a bit embarrassed by that chest now. Its like a scarlet letter; all my ignorant arrogance, proud and wrong in the corner of my shop next to the bench I hate.

Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. Is my time up now?

Adam

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>I think that both items are wonderful, but that plane just BLOWS ME AWAY! How Scott managed to polish the piece of channel to that degree I'll never know. Was the body cut and filed by hand, or machined? Gosh, what a fantastic job!

Todd O.

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#7

Experience and hindsight

Dennis

>One thing i can say, at the time you made that chest you did what you thought was correct. And now if you if you did it again you would do things different. I don't know about everybody else but my hindsight is a lot less than 20/20 and my experience is hard earned. For my money one that understands that is far head of most and you seem to see that Adam.

The difference between well done and perfection is only a few thousands and that distance takes a lot of work

Dennis,who really likes perfection but it so hard to achieve

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Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>Is the handle ebonized?

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Scott G

>Why thank you most graciously gents!

It was a long project. No, I mean a looooooooong project. A mistake from the beginning. 8^D Dovetailing some plates together would have been easier.

It started out as a nasty, rusty, crusty old piece of heavy weight channel iron, same as any other in the boneyard. Must have been 20 feet of it in various length pieces.

I cut a piece off with a torch and there it sat for seemingly forever. Along the way I was wanting a Stanley #112 but none ever came. Finally I decided to make myself a scraper plane.

In order to get the channel truly flat, I first welded a piece of pipe to the center of the inside and used this as a mandrel to turn it flat with a large metal lathe. Next cut the pipe back off and built a homemade milling attachment for the same big lathe so I could mill out the inside truly square (they aren't square natually, you know. there's a taper to each leg.)

The whole side thickness got cut down fore and aft to make something of a boat shape to the body and reduce weight. Last was deciding on my side profile and grinding/filing it out. The wide chamfers were filed by hand until they are as you see them. A large job but one I wanted so much it kept me going to the end.

The frog and cap iron were going to be a struggle. I actually still have the steel plate and tubing frog I was working up when Russ came to my rescue and offered to cast them for me.

I'd never made a pattern before. Poor Russ had to struggle with my mistakes, there can be no doubt. I made the basic parts from some port orford cedar I had recently been working with and overlaid the filigree (the scrambled eggs) from some apple I also had laying handy from another project. I picked the apple because I knew it would hold up to rough treatment. Little did I know I was carving the design so finely it was going to be trouble getting a good cast (oops). Sorry again Russ

The knob holding the lever cap down is an old Stanley pre-war adjusting knob. It was bored out and a piece of threaded rod soldered in. Then a disk of rosewood was cut out with a holesaw that had the pilot drill removed and pressed in, a tight fit.

The infilled bun came from a gift of a piece of deep beautiful rosewood I got. The piece wasn't 2% larger then you see it now. It just fit inside the body. It was mostly rasped and filed to shape, only limited cutting was done. It was slow but it was safer this way.

The polish you see on the body was done with a cheap rubber disk sander and a drill with stick on disks. Down through several grits. At #320 it was looking good enough to move to the buffing wheel and finish. (If you don't collect those older thick rubber 5" disks whenever you see them at yard sales you're nuts!! Handier than hogs feet and I'm not kidding! The newer, thinner more flexible rubber ones have their place. The brand new vinyl ones are useless. But those old thick natural rubber ones are worth their weight in gold!!)

The blade is a chunk of old crosscut saw. Lots of blades in one of those old monsters if you can get it before the saw painters do.

Well, I could keep going all night but I suppose this is long enough and then some.

yours, Scott

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Scott G

>Oops, Sorry Jonathan

Nope, the bun n tote are just the way they grew.

I don't finish any high grade exotic wood in anything more than polish.

Scraped clean and buffed mirror smooth does it for me. Med sewed cotton buff, aluminum oxide compund, 1000rpm. Fast too.

yours, Scott

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Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>Scott,

Hopefully someday it will reside in your own version of the Gerstner chest right alongside all the wonderful tools you've created. Thanks for the rundown and the inspiration.

regards

Jonathan

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I agree with Dennis, no one springs from the womb knowing everything. You did a great job, I even like the blue/green. :)

Pam

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