Woodie Question *LINK*

Re: Woodie Question

Ernie Miller *Topeka

>Differant makers? the top one has had the sole jointed/laped a couple times? I don't know but that is a couple options.

Re: Woodie Question

Doug Reynolds in Seattle

>I suggest the design makes the "ears" larger and, therefore, less prone to split when the wedge is pressed too much. A lot of the woodies I have seen seem to crack at the joint of the ears and the sides.

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Adam Cherubini, NJ

>I think I can see a crack in the top plane. That feature we're talking about is called the abuttment. Those abuttments want to be as small as possible to allow the shavings to pump out of the throat unhindered. Moden plane makers (or their customers) seem to miss the point that not every plane is supposed to produce whisper thin shavings. That could be the problem here.

It appears as though the size of the abutments is not effected by the lamination. The cheeks appear laminated seperate from the abutments. I used a Steve Knight smoother once. It too was a four piece plane. It had abutments (not a cross pin). As I recall, the abutments were formed in the laminated cheek pieces. If I recall the plane correctly, I remember thinking that was a better design. I don't recall loving its shape (I'm really accustomed to traditional English planes) but it sure did perform nicely.

I could be totally wrong about how that crown plane was made. But the more I think about it, the less I like the idea of gluing the abutments to a seperate cheek. That bondline better be stiff, stiff, stiff. The wedge produces constant pressure. I glued a cracked abutment once (which had broken just as Doug said). I used yellow glue and darn if that piece didn't squeeze out of that plane. Everytime I picked it up, I wondered why I hadn't chiseled that little piece flush with the top of the plane. I think I chiseled it three times before I figured out what was happening. Since then I've always used hide glue for such repairs. But I'm not sure I'd trust a plane glued together the way this one seems to be.

Adam

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Chad Boehlke

>Two things I could think of, to hold the blade better, or just for looks. My question is with that small of an opening dose it spit out the shavings?? or clog up??

Perhaps it might be helpful...

Bob Hackett

>to look at a pic of one of Steve knight`s planes and compare his construction technique and the width of the abutments on his planes to what you have with your Crown plane.

I`d be interested to know if you come to the same conclusions that I have.

BTW-You can still contact Leon for help if you have any questions,he still makes planes. Although Crown may have made yours and he no longer owns the company they are still using his designs.

Mainely,Bob

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Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>When I tried it out, the chips got hung up in the throat opening and stayed there until I stopped and cleared them. I haven't done any work to this plane and can only speak on the one example that I have. I think that it might have something to do with the narrower throat opening or larger ears, but I don't know for sure. I am hoping others more knowlegable will have the answer

Regards

Jonathan

Very helpful...thanks...

Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>I just checked Steve's website and the abutments on his planes appear smaller....much smaller

In his jack plane description it says:

"The Jack Plane is used for hogging off wood, leveling, flattening, and smoothing surfaces."

"Approximately 14" X 2.5" X 1.75" This plane comes with a 2" iron, an adjustable Ipe mouth block and sole (for extreme wear resistance and slickness) and an Bloodwood strike plate. The wider mouth opening is for larger shavings"

The one I have came set up with a fine mouth and although I could open it and use it for hogging, it was so sweet as it was that I couldn't change a thing and kept it set fine. There's something about wood on wood that's a real joy. I don't have it here and can't remember if it was laminated from three pieces or made from a single block.

Just in case you can't tel...I highly recommend Steve's planes. I don't know what it is, but they just perform to a very high level right out of the box....but don't tell Steve cause he might raise his prices:-) I'd also love to know how Steve sharpens his blades, as my attempts at sharpening don't even come close.

Sooooooo....

allen wrench?

Rod Cole

>What is the little allen wrench used for?

TIA.

Rod Cole

Re: allen wrench?

Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>There is a small allen screw through each side of the plane's throat that laterally adjusts the iron. The iron is shaped like so..

\________/ so the business end doesn't hit the screw when inserted.

Thanks.

Rod Cole

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Re: Very helpful...thanks...

John Truxell-Svenson (jvs)

>Actually, one very nice thing about the design is that you can easily adjust or replace the mouth block. I don't have any ipe (at least I think it the original is ipe) laying around, but it took ~10 minutes to make one from maple for experimentation. Ended up putting the original back in, but it was an easy excercise. For the record, mine is a smoother, and I wanted to see what closing the mouth further than it came set at would do for improving the already very good performance; with a 55� bed, the answer was "practically nothing."




/jvs

Knight Knows Jack

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>I have that plane, too. I also found that when the plane arrived, the mouth opening was more narrow than would be appropreate for taking thick, jack-plane-like shavings.

I think Steve just gets carried away showing off his ability to make planes that take whispy shavings! Anyway, it is easier to make the opening wider than the converse.

I agree - his blades arrive perfectly honed!

Don