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Veritas scraping plane

Brad Smith

>Hello All,

Anyone have experience with the Veritas scraping plane? I'm considering purchasing a scraping plane, and I'd be particularly interested in any comparisons between the Veritas plane and the various sizes of Lie-Nielsen scraping planes.

Thanks,

Brad

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Christopher Fitch @ Memphis

>I have the LN #85 scraper plane and the Veritas Large Scraper plane.

Up front, I'll say that I like them both.

Now they are different tools but they can be used for similar, overlapping purposes. The LN is smaller and can work in some tight areas while the Veritas is great for large surfaces. I found the LN #85 to be a little more difficult to start a cut with. The Veritas can be confusing to adjust at first. Once the small learning curve is overcome, it's becomes easy to adjust and the thin blade works well. I also have the thick blade with the Veritas and it works well but is more difficult to start a cut with like the LN #85.

They are both fine tools though and I'd say it depends on what your primary purpose is for a scraper plane.

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Brad Smith

>Thanks for the info. My primary use will be for smoothing areas that my smoothing plane doesn't handle well (wild grain, knots, etc.).

I've been using a card scraper and/or sander for this purpose, but I prefer a planing motion to using a card scraper. (Also, I prefer to either plane/scrape an entire area or sand it, since the planed vs. sanded surfaces look different when finished.) Mostly I'd be using it on larger flat surfaces but occasionally on narrower surfaces such as straight table legs.

I'm trying to get away from using the random orbit sander any more than I absolutely have to. I usually prefer a planed finished to a sanded one, and it's just more pleasant to plane than deal with the noise, vibration, etc. of the sander.

Brad

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Christopher Fitch @ Memphis

>In that case, I would recommend the Veritas Large Scraper plane or the LN 112 (basically the same plane minus some improvements/differences).

The Large plane is primarily for that purpose and excels at that task.

I have a number of card scrapers and they are good for more controlled scraping but the large scraper is a breeze for working on large flat surfaces.

I used it just recently on my bench top and on a table top I have almost completed.

On a side note, I setup the plane for use with a thin blade by placing it on a flat surface (table saw) with NO bow in the blade. I loosen the blade clamping screw and let the blade sit flush against the flat surface. I tighten the screw and then I add some bow to it. This usually works well.

Good luck on your choice

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>I have the 112 and it is a great plane it is a go to plane for them nast boards.

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Brad Smith

>Thanks again, and I appreciate the blade-setting tip. I've heard setting the blade on these can be a bit tricky.

I've been wanting to try a Veritas plane, so I believe I'll take this opportunity and try theirs.

Brad

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Tony Z.

>I have a L-N 85 and being somewhat of a novice at scraping, I have found it to be fairly easy to learn. First, I had to hone/polish, second I had to set it up correctly--found placing the toe on a piece of paper on a very flat surface and let the blade touch the surface got it.

I like and dislike the tilting handles. Very nice to get comfortable angle, however, I've found the tote works loose. Been somewhat uneasy about overtightening.

In closing, I may be adding the LV 112, if Santa gets my hint. I like the idea of a thin and thick blade, and the width of the 112.

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Ted Shuck, Centennial, CO

>Tony said:

"I like and dislike the tilting handles. Very nice to get comfortable angle, however, I've found the tote works loose. Been somewhat uneasy about overtightening."

I have a LN 10 1/4 that had me pretty frustrated with the flip-flop handles. I'd get them positioned properly so I could rabbet right up to an edge without cracking my knuckles on it, then they would flip over and I would get bloodstains all over everything!

I took off the tote and knob and used a center punch to make a couple of dozen tiny dimples on the cast iron bosses that the tote and knob fit on. This has given just enough roughness that they don't slip around any more (when I don't want them too).

Hope this helps,

Ted

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington Ontario

>I have the LV scraper plane. The part I like is it's ease of setup and how long you can plane before you need to redo the iron.

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Tony Z.

>Ted,

I'll be trying that fix tomorrow evening.

Thanks!

T.Z.

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Gene C.

>Christopher,

I have a LV plane on the way to me now. Should I order the heavier blade also? Which do you use most or like best? Thanks for your input...

Gene

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Good question...

Christopher Fitch @ Memphis

>Personally, I bought it mostly to try it out.

From what I know, thick blades have the following advantages over thin blades with a bow:

1) More cutting area since they are not bowed

2) Because of #1 more time between sharpenings

3) Less chance for chatter since it's thicker

4) (pure speculation) More time between sharpenings because the blade is thicker

5) No washboard effect since the blade cuts square unlike the bowed thin blade that leaves dish tracks.

However there are some disadvantages:

1) Harder to start the cut (I noticed that when comparing to the thin blade)

2) Leaves tracks as the corners dig in. This can be alleviated some since the corners can be rounded but there is still some digging.

3) Difficult to adjust initially to the proper depth.

Gene, I can't give you much advice as to whether or not the thick blade is much better than the thin blade. I know that they both performed well. Someone else might be able to provide more info on thick vs thin blades.

I would suggest that you try out the curved blade, see how you like it. You may never need another, and as such, not waste your money since you will be satisfied.

Enjoy your tool!

I am pretty sure you that with some practice and patience you will enjoy using it and good nice results.

I know I did.

:)

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Sound advice Christopher, thanks

Gene C.

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Paul M. in San Diego

>Hi Brad,

I had the LN112, and I recently traded it away to another islander for a new LV large scraper plane. This trade was initiated off of the link below.

I just couldn't get the LN112 to work. I tried everything I could do to get this to work but it beat me. It turns out that the new owner found the one thing that I forgot to check, and the sole turned out to be concave. Catch and release is a great when fishing, but it sure sucked when operating your final finish smoothing tool.

Bottom line, I'm much happier with the LV because it fits my hands better and I like the bowing action on the thinner blade. I get the gossamer shavings off of this that I get off of my hand-held card scrapers, which is what I was shooting for in the first place.

Also, when the LN wasn't chattering, it always left edge marks where the edge of the blade left a step. Scraping is one case where a thinner blade can be beneficial.


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