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Jack Guzman from Maine

Workbench books and vises

Jack Guzman from Maine

>I built my bench using a plan from lee valley for a "modern bench".I used a large face vise as my end vise and made square dogs to go in the dog holes I put in both skirts and the end vise jaws. I put a small face vise on the left side. Two years later I use the small vise for planing mostly.I cut mortises by holding the pieces on the front edge of the bench with clamps.The end vise was a waste of effort,almost.I found a leg vise at a yard sale. After looking at it for awhile I attached it to a solid door blank bench I have elsewhere in the shop. I found it so useful that I attached a 2x4 to the back leg which I then clamped in my end vise permanently and attached the bottom of the leg to the floor.I use this vise more than any other. I find it the perfect position and height for cutting dovetails and tenon end grain.It is also handy for carving and shaping with shaves.I wish I had had better information when I was building mine.I would prefer round dog holes.I would have oriented the grain better so it was easier to plane smooth.

The point I'm getting at is I think the idea of a better workbench book is a good one.I think it should be written by us. I think if we could gather pictures and details of actual working benches we would actually have a useful resource for others who want to build but don't have the knowledge.

Adam's opinions should be featured and I'm sure there are others here with valuable information they could contribute.

So, does anyone have an opinion on this?

If Adam does decide to write a book on benches I will buy it.

Jack

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John Aniano in NJ

>Jack,

Maybe those who participate here should take pictures of our workbenches and describe them in this forum. At the very least, it would give folks out there ideas even if there is no "new workbench book" written. Perhaps the WoodCentral powers that be might consider a new subset of the "articles" page where such a workbench show-and-tell and critique might take place.

Just a thought,

John (who still thinks that leg vises are best for a workbench...)

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David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>For whatever it's worth, I'll support the idea here anyway. :o) I'm just a lurker, and I have just a few minutes here and there to toy with hand tools, but a big bench is hopefully in the future. I know very little about how many of the basic processes, like planing a board flat and square, or cutting tenons by hand, are done on a bench - I really do not have a very good grasp of the terminology of all the different vises and such; pictures and explanations of different benches would be worth a million!

Thanks.

David Hammond

My Dad & Me, Inc.

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Matti Kuikka

>Very good idea. I have made mine and very well remember my incompetent search for ideas. The best advice I found was in Bob Key's site but it was only part of it. You need different wiews and levels of ideas. The best thought I had (in hind wisdom) was to make a WORKbench which is easy to repair, replane and modify and so cheap that if I accidentally destroy part of it I won't have to start a long savings program. Quality furniture is another thing, a tool for errant use another. That is why for ex. pictures of well used workbenches might be helpful to lower the threshold in starting to make one.

I'll also buy the book as soon as it is published.

Matti Kuikka

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Wider focus?

Bob Hackett

>Something that might or might not be useful is to look at how other trades or other sectors of the WWing field hold the work.

I`m not surprised by Adam`s opinions and suggestions.In the quest to build something to hold all things we end up with a bench that doesn`t fit us or the space we work in or hold the type of work we do as well as it possibly can.

One of the most useful tools a metal fabricator has is something called a platten.This is just a heavy horizontal surface with a series of square holes in it.You use stops and holddowns to secure the work and things like a vice only get in the way.The top is meant to stand up to abuse as everything from layout to heating with large torches for bending takes place on it.These things are ugly,simple,and incredibly useful.Nobody loves thier platten but you better not try to take it away.

Stoneworkers use something called a banker to hold thier work.Simple timber cribbing usually works quite well.Stone craftsmen work with chisels,saws,grinders,and do work that is much the same as we do in a different medium(never saw anybody try to put a plane to stone yet though).

I think far too much emphasis is put on the bench and how it will look.What we need to focus on is the work and start building benches that function as somthing more than shop eyecandy.

Mainely,Bob

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New Workbench Book *LINK*

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>FWIW, yet another book full of workbenches used by woodworking celebrities:


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Workbench Book Info at Taunton Press

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deanj

>A great idea. And what really needs to be done is to show how a hand tool workbench is used. How do you joint a face with your bench, how do you edge joint with your bench. If we all get together and all answer the same set of hows with different benches we will have a killer set of articles or book...

I'll be out of town until next Monday, and away from the 'net. But I look forward to seeing what we come up with. Perhaps an 'Event' is in order, describing a basic set of operations we all need to do and how we do it on our benches. Pics would be perfect!

Have a good weekend all...

Dean

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joel

>I have it, I read it, I think the earlier Landis is a lot better.

This book is more personality based and doesn't have the sense of context that the Landis book has. THe drawings are not as good, and there is a lot less understanding of the history of how benches developed.

THe only advantage it has over Landis is that it deals with products being sold now and if you are looking for a canned solution and need to buy parts the information is up to date.

note: the book I like best om the subject is "the Handyman's book" by Paul Hasluck. (C. 1901) THes section on benches is reasonably big,.it's cheap, you need some imaginstion to use it as he uses no store bought stuff. THe writing is dense to put it kindly. Adam won't like it (victorian style benches only. The part I found most useful - plans for building a proper toolbox.

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Roger Nixon

>How about a collaborative on-line effort?

I can set up a site that allows mulitple people to write pages or chapters with comments from others. If anyone is interested, I can have a site running in couple of hours for testing.

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David Linnabary

>I'd contribute! I've always thought that at the very least a "Bench FAQ" would be a nice addition.

I'm not sure what form the writings might take:

design philosophy

narratives of planning/building process'

hardware advise and sources

style selection criteria

customizing/retro fitting

My bench, what I'd do differently

Possibly having woodworkers try the benches of their peers and give their impressions.

David - brainstorming :)

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Steve Kubien

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Steve Kubien

>I like your ideas, especially, "My bench, what I would do differently."

I'll take home to office digital camera and snap some pics. Then I'll start writing something which faintly resembles an article. It will take some time because I've got to find my bench under all the "objects" which call it home.

This sounds like a great project which will be helpful to us and others who wander through the web.

Steve Kubien

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MT

>I don't know anything about this site but I came across this today while I was searching for more bench stuff http://www.workbenchdesign.net/index.html

MT

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Test site *LINK*

Roger Nixon

>I've set up a portal with forums and image gallery at the link below. It can be used to gather info and brainstorm.


Workbench book project

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Hank Knight in SC

>Roger, I didn't see anything in the instructions about file size for photos on your test site. What are the size requirements for posting pictures on your site?

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Roger Nixon

>IIRC (and I probably don't) it is 150kb.

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180kb

Roger Nixon

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Leg Vises Rule

Greg B�tit, Vergennes, VT

>I find that I use the leg vise on my 19th century bench 3:1 compared to the Emmert on the other bench. When I use the Emmert I often rotate it sideways so that it holds the work higher- more like the leg vise.

The old bench is ugliness personified. But with a 6 1/4" thick top, and being 13' long, it doesn't hop around much when I'm having at the workpiece.

Greg

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Thanks

Hank Knight in SC

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Jack Guzman from Maine

Got a plan?

Jack Guzman from Maine

>It looks like this was a popular idea.I wasn't sure if I was the only one and this was one of my goofy stray thoughts.

Thanks Roger. I'll take a picture of my mickey mouse leg vice.Maybe someone will get ideas from it.

Jack

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Lowering the threshold

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>If I post a picture of my workbench, it will lower the threshold enough that a snake can get over it without scraping its stomach.

I'm tempted, though not any time soon -- too many commitments right now.

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